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What's the most cheater bot?

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Orion Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 414 Location: Brazil |

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: What's the most difficult/cheater bot? |

well, some bots are so cheaters, others are too noobs... and i'm asking what one is the most cheater? For me is the Frog, even at low skill, he is easier to kill but if he has the RL or LG, he's very hard to beat. _________________ There's no signature here. Stop looking for one.

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leileilol Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 1321 |

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |

Reaper breaks weapon pickups and the readme is very self proclaimy bragging for l33t bot player excuses _________________

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Sajt Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 1026 |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |

Haven't played all of those but Reaper is pretty cheap (yeah the item picking up..) _________________ F. A. Špork, an enlightened nobleman and a great patron of art, had a stately Baroque spa complex built on the banks of the River Labe.

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Gilgamesh Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 67 Location: Brazil |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |

Reaper checks the enemy health to see if it should pursue the enemy or not? I remember it had some kind of enemy.health checking... _________________ #EOP

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Orion Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 414 Location: Brazil |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |

Yeah, the Reaper is cheater, too. See the link and read the cheats that he does. The site says "Reaper Bots Don't Cheat", but it's a false affirmation. http://www.mindspring.com/~win32ch/Reaper.htm _________________
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Gilgamesh Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 67 Location: Brazil |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |

That old site definitively didn't liked Inside3D that time... _________________ #EOP

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leileilol Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 1321 |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |

Yea woo we're the dark side "For the record, the Reaper Bot source code has been available online since the end of June of this year." Decompiled progs don't count sir _________________

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FrikaC Site Admin Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 947 |

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |

Cronos.

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CocoT Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 599 Location: Belly-Gum |

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |

"digital breadcrumbs" ... I get the image but... pffpffpff (/me giggles) ... "Welcome to Quest's FrikBot Digital Breadcrumbs Depo" ... now, that would have sounded cheezy... (mmm, bread and cheese...) ... My QBA bots (Tutorbot-based) cheated like crazy (but then some of them also had implemented "weakness" (slow reactions, etc))... I don't know what this obsession with this "bots-shouldn't-cheat" thing is about, I mean, as long as they are fun opponents to you, who cares.
Note : That doesn't mean I'm against the idea of this thread, of course. This can in fact lead to interesting discussions.
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FrikaC Site Admin Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 947 |

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |

At least for FrikBot, cheating is bad because the mod-pluginyness of it would be broken if it tried to cheat within the bot. To make it work with as many mods as possible, the focus was to make it play as much like a real player as humanly possible.
I mean, in a larger sense it does cheat in that it knows when all the items respawn and where all the players are on the level intrinsicly, but well....I blame the terrorists.

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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |

I said Reaper bot.

FrikaC wrote:
At least for FrikBot, cheating is bad because the mod-pluginyness of it would be broken if it tried to cheat within the bot. To make it work with as many mods as possible, the focus was to make it play as much like a real player as humanly possible.

Something that I myself am very grateful for. It's also what makes it one of the best bots to have ever been made. ever.

FrikaC wrote:
I mean, in a larger sense it does cheat in that it knows when all the items respawn and where all the players are on the level intrinsicly, but well....I blame the terrorists.

The first isn't cheating, really. At least, not in my book. And neither is the second. With the current frikbot, I will quite often have to hunt out bots that are hiding in sniping spots. (DM1 for example) I can even get the drop on them sometimes, which means they don't really use the player location intelligence to maximum advantage. (i.e. cheat)
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Orion Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 414 Location: Brazil |

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |

Yeah the Frik is the best bot ever made... But in maps without waypoints, they stand so much.. and that's unrealistic... a good example is in Rocket Arena, I've added them to RA, and in maps that have hills, boxes or etc, when both hide behind them, they just stand and I should kick all and re-add'em..
They should roam like my own... or make waypoints for RA maps.
When I have time I'll upload my bots's source code for QW.. cause QN is modded and have extra models...
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