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Entar

Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 422 Location: At my computer
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: No-Kill Monsters |
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I was thinking about this earlier today, and I thought I would post it here to get your thoughts on it.
In certain games (and I couldn't name one for the life of me) there are certain monsters that are chasing you and/or attacking you, but you are either unable or restricted from attacking them, or else you either lose or are set back somehow, or perhaps they're just invincible. I wonder if this could be an interesting gameplay addition to certain mods or games today, where there is either something chasing you, forcing you to push forward at a steady (and perhaps faster-than-comfortable) rate, or something that is in the background, constantly pestering you, to make things a bit more difficult, depending on the style/design of the mod/game.
Your thought(s) on this? _________________ woh... feelin woozy... too much cider...
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kable
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Do you mean like Chthon or CyberDemon in D3?
Edit: Hello... anyway |
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FrikaC Site Admin

Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 947
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Chthon.....chasing people.....brilliant! |
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neg!ke Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Why not. It can definitely add some dynamic to the gameplay. Of course it depends on how it's implemented.
The first example that came to my mind is the first encounter with one of those large flamethrower monsters in Half-Life. You're unable to kill it (at least at first) so you have to run away and outmaneuver it or lure it into some kind of transformer station to electrocute it.
However, such enemies can easily become annoying if the environment doesn't correspond well to that mode of playing, like when there's no cover or alternate routes.
No idea if it would work for Quake though, as we've been conditioned for ten years that everything that moves can and should be killed. |
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Sajt
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 1026
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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First thing that came to my mind was the PacMan ghosts in Wolf3D ... dang things! _________________ F. A. Špork, an enlightened nobleman and a great patron of art, had a stately Baroque spa complex built on the banks of the River Labe. |
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Urre

Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 1073 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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What FrikaC said made me laugh out loud, and have this awesome idea of a level with a river of lava next to most parts of it, where Chthon chases you and throws lava balls, and you need to move your arse at all times to not get hit, with some obstacles to catch your breath behind. Some parts of the level could be away from the river, with regular Quake gameplay, and Chthon could sink back into the lava if he hasn't seen you in a while (gets bored or whatever), so once you get back to the river section, he soon rises up again and starts chasing you. My goodness the coolness. Now someone get a mapper on this awesome shit of a gameplay idea! That'd make me play Quake again, even if only for a moment. _________________ Look out for Twigboy |
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Spirit

Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 476
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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How about Chthon in a wheel-chair chasing the player and hitting him with a bat.
Seriously, that would be great. |
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scar3crow Inside3D Staff

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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You know, the Chthon idea is similar to the original idea id had for the dragon, appearing in open areas of the castle, large expanses of sky.... More of being chased and stalked than an outright battle.
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Sajt
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 1026
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Large expanses of guy... ohh scar3crow you're turning me on  _________________ F. A. Špork, an enlightened nobleman and a great patron of art, had a stately Baroque spa complex built on the banks of the River Labe. |
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scar3crow Inside3D Staff

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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The edit feature thwarts your comment! Alas, I should not be making posts right as I wake up, my mind rhymes naturally |
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