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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: Looking for a few good monsters... |

I'm considering doing a monster compilation mod with source included, and where source is unavailible, to recode said monster, and once that's done, perhaps do a zoo like demo map for them all to be seen on. So, I was wondering, what non-id monsters that have appeared in quake do people actually like, and would like to see in such a format?
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FrikaC Site Admin Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 947 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |

Willy the spider isn't too bad.

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leileilol Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 1321 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |

Willy the Spider has QC files. _________________

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FrikaC Site Admin Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 947 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |

Oh, right.

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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |

CheapAlert wrote:
Willy the Spider has QC files.

Perfectly valid. I just meant that they CAN have their own QC files, but in cases where the QC is unavailible, recode them. For example, say Abyss of Pandemonium's monsters, and whatnot.
Maybe it would simply be better for me to list some monsters, and have people fill in any that I've forgotten...
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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |

Monster List Current, let me know If I've missed any. Non-Affiliated (i.e. not part of a missionpack) Originals: Willy Spider Redback Spider Manga Babe / Hell Kitten
Blarg
Snakeman
Cyberdemon
Drone
Nun Sarge (from Hard Target mod)
Missionpack Originals
SoA:
Scourge (big ass scorpion from SoA with nailguns for claws)
Deathball
Gremlin
Armagon
DoE:
Wraith
SuperWraith
Egyptian Morph guy
Electric Eel
Dragon
Nehahra Originals:
Baron
Quoth / Contract Originals
Drole
Night Gaunt
Gug
Voreling
Flying Polyp
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Baker Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1538 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |

Lunaran's Axe Men/Mega Enforcers/Enforcer Commanders: (QuakeC in download) http://www.lunaran.com/maps.php?map=lunsp1 Zerstorer Bad Guys: (QuakeC in download)
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/partial_conversions/zerstoerer/
Fat Controller's Archers and an array of other ones:
(QuakeC in download)
http://hosted.planetquake.gamespy.com/fatty/default.asp?file=custents
Necro's Fire Shamblers, Black Shamblers, Hell Knight with shielding:
QuakeC not included I don't think
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?/planetquake/necros/ne_sp06.zip

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scar3crow Inside3D Staff Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Las Vegas, NV

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |

DrSB - Theyre called Centroids, not Scourge.

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Baker Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1538 |

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |

scar3crow wrote:
DrSB - Theyre called Centroids, not Scourge.

They are monster_scourge entities in the maps

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scar3crow Inside3D Staff Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Las Vegas, NV

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |

and you also have monster_wizard, but its still a Scrag.

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SkinnedAlive Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 65 |

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |

I'm pretty sure nehahra has more original monsters.

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venomus Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 44 |

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |

Lets see, Nehahra had more monsters, Also the source code is available on that site. Soul of Evil (devkit) had well made dragons (several types) and a few boring reskins of stock monsters with increased health etc. Carved in Flesh had Fiendlings and some kind of wizard. Most of Kona's maps seem to have some custom enemies so its worth checking all those maps.
Rapture had re-done Nehahra barons.
Some other mod from Tronyn (can't remember the name) had axemen, some reskins (not as boring, they had different attacks etc), and the wizard dude again. EDIT: the name of this series is Coven of Ebony.
Custents had a few new monsters.
There was this big moon base map? Had the walking mechs that fired lasers from Custents. EDIT: the name of this map is Colony.
Hexameron has enforcers with rockets flame throwers.
There is yet another Base series with a flying laser drones and a new reskinned set of blue enemies that have different attacks. EDIT: the name of this series is Operation: Urth Majik.
Hexen 2 is based on the quake engine and had a shitload of new monsters. I you somehow managed to find/rip the qc source code I'm sure it could be made to work in Quake.
Prydon Gate
AirQuake/KiU/DiD tanks and stuff
And not to forget my own contribution, the maggot and the stalker. Don't know what happened to them though
BTW, if you are intending to have _every_ monster in your zoo map, you'd better have a custom engine that can handle oversize progs.dat and increased precache limits. One of my n00b mods tried the same and hit the limits way before getting all the ones listed above.

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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |

Thanks for the suggestions everybody, I'll be checking into those, though no doubt at least a few of those won't make it in due to being little more than cheesy variants / redundancies.

venomus wrote:
And not to forget my own contribution, the maggot and the stalker. Don't know what happened to them though

Fear not, though I don't have the stalker (much less tried it), the maggot most definatly WILL go in.

venomus wrote:
BTW, if you are intending to have _every_ monster in your zoo map, you'd better have a custom engine that can handle oversize progs.dat and increased precache limits. One of my n00b mods tried the same and hit the limits way before getting all the ones listed above.

What I intend to do is filter out all the weaker monsters that don't really fit into the quake theme, hopefully leaving all the better / best monsters. Worst comes to worst, I can just split them into separate zoos, like oh, say Seaworld for aquatic monstrosities, Airworld for flying monsters, etc.
Hopefully, the end result of this little side project will be a nice repository of the most important monsters in a readily grabable format for use by modders and mappers alike.
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venomus Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 44 |

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |

Dr. Shadowborg wrote:
Fear not, though I don't have the stalker (much less tried it), the maggot most definatly WILL go in.

The stalker was actually called the broodling, and it was a small vore alike creature intended to drop from the ceiling. The mod had a test map.
I have been looking for backups of my old Quake stuff and found more than I expected, including the maggot and that coolweps gun FrikaC was looking for, but no broodling .

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Dr. Shadowborg Inside3D Staff Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 726 |

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |

Okay, I've decided to split this into two series of mods: Faerie Journal - Third-Party monsters, not affiliated with with any of the iD and MissionPack(SoA and DoE) monsters. May be broken up into multiple volumes depending on how many said monsters exist. Will include monsters that fit and are worthy of porting / remaking from Hexen 2, including but not limited to the imps as seen in "The Marcher Fortress". (Will contain regular id1 monsters too, but no missionpack monsters. Said monsters will NOT be showcased in zoo map)
Doc's Guide to Mutants - Contains Operation Hellsmash and third party variants of iD, MissionPack (SoA and DoE) and unused iD monsters. (Contains regular id1 monsters as well as the missionpack monsters. Only missionpack monsters will be present in zoo map)
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