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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Good Mods for Stock Quake Reply with quote

Hello.


So many mods I find are dependent on DarkPlaces.

Are there any good ones for stock quake?

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, there were never any good mods for Quake.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spirit wrote:
Nope, there were never any good mods for Quake.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archmage, Airquake, Void Mod and Best of the Void (both mine), Roids, Snowed, Custents, Void Ents (mine), Jeht (mine)...

Those are what come to mind without hooking up and booting my old computer to look at my quake folder.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me coughs

I've heard the one in here isn't bad.

http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=967

New version (Which is very much different from this) will probably come out as soon as I get some time to:

1. Finish the Cthonoid
2. Fix a myriad of small things
3. Properly tweak skill settings for the SP map in the new version
4. Enough of a time gap passes from when RMQ Deathmatch Demo was released. (Because I don't want to steal any of it's thunder. And no, I have not had any time to try either it or the SP demo either. :\)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Good Mods for Stock Quake Reply with quote

Team Xlink wrote:
Hello.

So many mods I find our dependent on DarkPlaces.

Are there any good ones for stock quake?

Thank you.


Depends on your definition of a "good" mod.

Open source mods that I know of that are intriguing:

New monsters, weapons, "power ups"?

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1. Zerstorer
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/zerstoerer-devkit.zip

2. Hipnotic / Rogue (Quake Mission Packs 1 and 2)
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/hipnotic-devkit-all.zip
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/more_idstuff

3. The Lost Chapters
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/Chapters%20Source%20-%2008-19-05.zip

4. OUM
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/oumqc.zip

5. Custents
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/custents.zip

6. Navy Seals
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/ns30src.zip

7. X-Men: Ravages of Apocalypse
http://www.zerogravity.com.au/portfolio0601.php

8. Lunaran's Mega Enforcers / Axe Grunts
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/lunsp1.zip

9. Prydon Gate (Sort of like Diablo)
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/code_crazy_(Prydon_Gate_src).zip

10. QMatrix (wall jumping, for one!)
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/Matrix05C_SRC.zip

11. And of course Quake-Life by Avirox
https://customtf.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/customtf/quakelife/ql_src/


Mods with new physics or new gadgets:

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1. P0x Extras R4 (Func_Ladder, moving water brush hack)
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/extras_r4.zip

2. Gyro
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/gyro2_21a.zip


Multiplayer:

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CTF
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/xctf_100f-src.zip

RuneQuake Advanced (Oh my! Amazing stuff in this ... really)
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/RQP_0.5.4.zip

Team Fortress
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/tf25src.zip


Others here are FAR more familiar with the great and offbeat mods that have been made. But this is a list of some great sources that I know of personally.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not really after the sources.

What I am after is:

1. A mod that can run in Stock Quake/GlQuake.
2. Its fun.


If it is a multiplayer mod, does it have servers that people play on or does it have bots.

I just want something fun to play while I am at work.

I will check out some of the stuff you listed.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Jeht then. Very Happy
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Also Airquake is a great option.

Most mods don't have servers these days, unfortunately. Sad Rocket Arena and TF probably always will.

*Edit: You can always play these mods in multiplayer on a LAN, if you have others to play with. If not on the same LAN, then over a VPN or with Hamachi, etc.

Many mods also offer bots, especially thanks to Frikbot.

Another multiplayer mod with bots: my Battlemech mod. It runs in TomazQuake and I think stock/GLQuake. I don't remembe though. Sadly it hasn't run in Darkplaces for some time due to a weird camera bug that started appearing at a DP version we haven't narrowed down yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/compilations/kqp220z.zip
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/compilations/kqp220z.txt

Killer Quake Pack. Its utterly insane, and jam packed with randomness and various juicy bits.

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/

I'll try and give you a more proper list later on.

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If it is a multiplayer mod, does it have servers that people play on or does it have bots.

Sadly most servers don't know how to changelevel from dm3. If I had the cash, I would love to setup some Inside3d servers, running classic mods, and new mods as well. Bots and friends with a listen server are your best bet.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar3crow wrote:
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/compilations/kqp220z.zip
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/compilations/kqp220z.txt

Killer Quake Pack. Its utterly insane, and jam packed with randomness and various juicy bits.

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/

I'll try and give you a more proper list later on.

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If it is a multiplayer mod, does it have servers that people play on or does it have bots.

Sadly most servers don't know how to changelevel from dm3. If I had the cash, I would love to setup some Inside3d servers, running classic mods, and new mods as well. Bots and friends with a listen server are your best bet.


Random information:

scar3crow, I know you hate ProQuake cheat-free (it only allows ProQuake client to play and no other engines) and I want you to know that it is now officially dead. There is 1 obscure server running ProQuake cheat-free that no one uses ... all the rest now have abandoned it in favor of the DarkPlaces/FTEQW derived "anti-wallhack" server.

Additional information:

This week may see the birth of the "Universal Server". These servers can run tons of [open source only] mods via vote-mod, due to information FrikaC conveyed last year about how progs.dat loads fresh upon a map change.

The reason the mods must be open source is that it requires some QuakeC modification.

There are 2 server operators that may end up hosting the pilot server of this modification this week. I expect that this will lead to a chain reaction where most servers become "Universal Servers" (why host one mod if you can host 5 or 10 or 20 mods via vote-mod).

The result of that would likely be that servers with extra ports available might be able to host a DarkPlaces dedicated port because "Universal Server" will free up server resources by not needing so many redundant ports to host mods.

This is all tentative and theoretical and may evolve somewhat slowly because the one thing that can't be tolerated on a server is a mod that can crash the server.

And most of these mods haven't had enough live road testing to know the quality of their code.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baker; That is rather exciting news, and I do hope you open source the framework for such a "Universal Server", I just hope they don't get filled with Clan Arena variants, but rather interesting mods.

Some mods off the top of my head for the servers, though I do not know if they're open source or not:
GetRichQuake (a long long time ago it was MOTW on PQ and it was a blast)
Storm the Castle (FrikaC's medieval answer to TeamFortress, I loved playing the Thief)
Zerstorer DM
Painkeep
HeadHunters
Navy SEALS
Kleshik
Quoth co-op
Hipnotic DM
Rogue CTF
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is the mod switching done? Does it use the sv_progs cvar in darkplaces to change the progs.dat filename?

Also, Quoth is not open source, though users may have a legal right to demand source code to it, as one might assume it is under the GPL v2.

Before the GPL re-release of the id1 qc source it had no license, which in the US roughly means "no license, can not distribute at all", so one could assume then that it must be based on the GPL source, or it is an even bigger legal breach if not.

Under the GPL, the user can demand source code to any specific version they have received binaries for.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar3crow wrote:
Baker; That is rather exciting news, and I do hope you open source the framework for such a "Universal Server", I just hope they don't get filled with Clan Arena variants, but rather interesting mods.

Some mods off the top of my head for the servers, though I do not know if they're open source or not:
GetRichQuake (a long long time ago it was MOTW on PQ and it was a blast)
Storm the Castle (FrikaC's medieval answer to TeamFortress, I loved playing the Thief)
Zerstorer DM
Painkeep
HeadHunters
Navy SEALS
Kleshik
Quoth co-op
Hipnotic DM
Rogue CTF

Baker is Mr Open Source, I can guarantee you he will.

Oh, and wot 'Avoc said about Quoth x 25000.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mh; I felt it safe to assume he would, but best to ask first just to make sure its known and in the open =)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be cool to see one of my mods (i.e. Jeht/Ace of Nails/Best of the Void) in such a voting mod... though it would be too bad to get it in there only to have it voted down every time. Wink

Is it QW mods only or are other mods fair game?

Rune Quake was popular, and may be a good mod to add.

I totally agree with Storm the Castle. I had fun playing that with FrikaC and others. Token Quake would also rock, especially if it had an in-game QC menu system to make it easy to throw together a character on the fly (and I think it might have). However, if it gave a clear link to the website to build the character, that would work.
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