#1 posted by negke [88.70.90.92] on 2010/07/12 19:34:05
Thank you for your great work, fine gentlemen.
#2 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/12 21:51:07
i can't use it. :S
i'm on windows 7, and when i select the quake directory, it says "Cannot be written to!" which i'm assuming is a permissions thing.
this usually isn't a problem but because this is a .jar file and not an executable, i don't get any tabs in the file properties to run as administrator, not does that option appear in the right click menu.
you'll have to fix permissions or find a work around i suppose.
too bad, actually. i'm a lazy bum when it comes to downloading maps and i was looking forward to trying this out.
 Patman++
#3 posted by JPL [82.234.167.238] on 2010/07/12 22:39:50
Quake Injector = Patman++
#4 posted by Trinca [85.138.15.226] on 2010/07/12 23:07:32
necros always log (W7)as administrator :)that way always work!
 Yeah
#5 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/13 00:40:37
my account is the administrator, but w7 isn't as simple as that. the programs themselves have certain permissions which they can't break unless specified by the user.
this is usually done by selecting 'Run as Administrator' from the right click menu. unfortunately, you can't do that with a .jar file because it's not an executable itself, because it has to run through java before it actually executes. (or at least, that's as much as i understand about that whole java thing)
maybe there's a way to get java to run with administration privileges for only that specific .jar file, but i don't know it. :(
 Append
#6 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/13 00:43:10
i guess this might be more a java thing actually? i never had problems with the 3 vb programs i've made and 2 of them were before i was working with windows 7. (the doom3 gui editor and the doom3 .ase material replacer) and i didn't do anything special to write files with the quake compiler. maybe java has even more safety measures?
 Great Tool!
#7 posted by dfsp_spirit [92.230.49.149] on 2010/07/13 02:16:21
I always wanted to give this tool a try, the post of alpha2 here reminded me to finally do that!
I love this thing, it is just what I needed and there's so many maps to play (especially for me since I'm a Quake 1 noob)!
@necros: I don't run Windows Vista or 7 but you could try to create a shortcut to your Java executable instead and edit the command line to something like "path\to\java.exe -jar \path\to\quakeinjector.jar". Then run that as Admin.
 Crap
#8 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/13 02:43:37
that actually did work and gave me the option to elevate the shortcut, but it still says "Cannot be written to!". there must be more to it than i thought.
 Cheers
#9 posted by Johnny Law [67.188.146.66] on 2010/07/13 07:00:53
Couple of questions!
Does it always download the package list from somewhere when you start Quake Injector, or is the list cached locally?
What's the process for getting new releases onto the list? Are you toiling away as the lone list maintainer or is there a way for others to help update?
#10 posted by Spirit [80.171.84.237] on 2010/07/13 08:26:36
It always downloads the database from Quaddicted (about 100 Kilobytes I think). Not sure if it caches the file locally but you can download it manually and use it offline that way (I have to write a guide).
Currently I have to add new things. And I am terrible at it. Making it easier for others to help will be a summer project.
 W7/Vista Problems
#11 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/13 08:30:30
We had problems on Vista like that before, but I don't have a Vista machine, so I can't check myself. I recently got a W7 Starter machine though...
That check is a simple File.canWrite() (or something similar) check to the java api. Either I'm doing something stupid, the api is doing something weird, or Vista/W7 is fucked.
On my W7 laptop (where I disabled that weird service that controls file access), I can select my home dir fine, but NOT the Desktop (cannot be written to). What path do you try to set as Quake dir?
Johnny Law: Yeah, atm it's always downloading the list, caching is a planned feature.
And yeah, Spirit's the only one with access to the list, but we've been talking about this. A submission page for map authors would be nice. The problem is that some authority needs to double-check the files, because there could be malicious files in the zips.
 Submission Page?
#12 posted by negke [88.70.49.146] on 2010/07/13 08:47:31
Not really worth the effort for the small number of new releases each year. Just stop slothing away all the time, Spirit! >:)
 Megaman
#13 posted by SleepwalkR [130.149.148.83] on 2010/07/13 09:32:16
The JavaDoc says that File#canWrite() "Tests whether the application can modify the file denoted by this abstract pathname."
Since you're trying this on a directory, I think that the behavior may simply be nondeterministic because it is not specified.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd...
 Nah
#14 posted by SleepwalkR [130.149.148.83] on 2010/07/13 09:36:49
Read a bit more, it seems to be ok to call canWrite on a directory, but it seems to have problems in Windows with NTFS ACLs and stuff. Maybe you can work around that shit by just trying to create a file in the Quake dir and catch any exceptions if it fails.
 Actually
#15 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/13 09:56:18
yeah, maybe that check is stupid. But then, it's perfectly plausible (and important?) to do it on unix.
http://www.google.de/search?num=10...
Although that first bug has fix-delivered status?!
 Nice...
#16 posted by metlslime [67.188.81.46] on 2010/07/13 10:12:33
the fact that it plays nicely with an existing maps directory makes this something i will now use constantly.
Some notes:
- console output might be nice as a panel on the main window rather than a modal dialog?
- i launched "rubicon" and it went straight to the main map; mods that contain a start map should load the start map instead.
- instead of user specifying "rogue" and "hipnotic" packs, could you detect them automatically?
 Oh..
#17 posted by metlslime [67.188.81.46] on 2010/07/13 10:16:22
found a bug... it did not detect that i had chaos.bsp already installed.
BUT... i realized now, this is actually becuase i have version 1.1 installed and the quaddicted file is the original release.
So it's not a bug, it handled the file mismatch pretty gracefully i think (asked me if i wanted to overwrite those files)
#18 posted by Trinca [194.65.24.228] on 2010/07/13 11:08:10
necros if isn't w7 administrator is the windows firewall... for me no problems at all
 Metl
#19 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/13 12:25:22
The Rubicon start map issue is actually an issue with the information in the database. rubicon has no start map defined, if it had it would start the start map. Spirit! :D
The Bug: yeah, it's crc checking the files.
rogue/hipnotic: of course, that's a good idea ;-)
 Windows 7/Java Problem
#20 posted by mh [137.191.242.106] on 2010/07/13 15:18:23
You can either set the ACL on your Quake directory to allow writing (use the "Everyone" security principal) or else configure C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe (or C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe) to use elevation and this should work.
 Megaman
#21 posted by SleepwalkR [130.149.148.83] on 2010/07/13 16:36:00
That bug was fixed before Vista came out I think, so it may have popped up again. Also, the bug was for a specific directory, maybe that directory still works, but others don't. It seems plausible that File#canCheck() should work for what you want, but since there's a simple workaround (create file, catch exception, finally delete file) I wouldn't waste too much time on this nonsense ;-).
 VirtualStore
#22 posted by Baker [99.54.145.17] on 2010/07/14 03:14:55
It's annoying but with Vista (I don't have W7 but it is likely the same) Quake doesn't write files in Program Files\Quake\id1 and such but rather the operating system transparently redirects it to say ... c:\Users\Main\AppData\Local\Virtua... Files\Quake\id1
#23 posted by Trinca [194.65.24.228] on 2010/07/14 10:10:38
Baker Vista and W7 dont have nothing to do...
Vista = mister big bug
W7 = almost perfect system
#24 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/14 20:17:09
well, i've tried a whole bunch of different ways to get around it but no luck.
quake is in c:\games\quake.
i don't understand why, but ONLY the quake directory has this problem. i can select every other folder without problems. i tried messing around with security permissions for the quake folder, i tried different ways of elevating java when running the jar file and nothing worked.
 Do You
#25 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/14 22:25:29
have a custom icon / custom folder settings for that dir?
 I'll Try To Hotfix Soon, Btw
#26 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/14 22:25:59
#27 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/15 18:52:45
have a custom icon / custom folder settings for that dir?
not that i know of. my quake folder has migrated from machine to machine over the years though, unlike, say, quake3 which i just reinstall whenever i switch.
 That Is Fucking Weird Then
#28 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/15 19:31:18
Can you do me a favor and test this some more?
0) see if anything in your quake dir is read only and try disabling read only mode on those files. Check if QI can write to your quake dir now.
1) if it cannot write, copy the complete folder to somewhere else (preferably in the same parent dir) and see if it works on that
2) if not, try moving it somewhere else
3) if it's still not working, try to delete the contents (but only the contents) of the subdirectories in that copy of your quake dir
4) if that still doesn't work, delete everything inside it
5) if it's still not working, try to reset the folder options for that particular folder. I don't know how exactly this works in Win 7, in XP there's view > customize folder in explorer that kinda looks like what I want. Maybe you can figure out how to reset it and try it.
Maybe we can figure out what's causing this. Thanks in advance! (And make sure you're not deleting your actual quake folder!)
 Argh
#29 posted by rj [86.0.165.149] on 2010/07/15 20:22:07
i only recently installed the first QI.. wish i'd waited for this now. completely rebuilt my quake directory from scratch based on it and subsequently renamed many of the bsps & txts that didn't fit neatly in order (OCD habit)
would an installedMaps.xml generated by an earlier version still be compatible with this? so i could bypass the scanning (as it would miss a fair few)
 Yep, Most Probably
#30 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/15 21:34:39
I can't remember any changes, but then, it has been a while (and lots of commits)
 Well...................
#31 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/16 04:13:01
my quake folder is 8+ gb so i didn't copy the whole thing, just the root (quake executables) and the id1 folder.
and it works.
so... i just moved all the files in the original quake folder to the new one and it's fine. obviously there's some security setting or something i'm missing because even while empty, the original quake folder still cannot be written to.
now to go play some random quake maps. :)
 After Playing A Single Map
#32 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/16 04:31:47
initial impression:
-very cool, i'll come back to this again to play more maps.
-since this already connects to the internet and downloads files off of quaddicted, it would be great if we could see user comments as well as leave some ourselves from within the program. obviously, you'd need to enter your username/password into the injector.
-there needs to be like a 'recently downloaded' list so we can keep track of what we've downloaded. say i'm skimming through the list and download 4 maps.
-OR: alternatively, make a new sorting column called 'download date' or somesuch and then we can organize the files by download date.
-OR: keep track of which maps have been played or not in some manner that is visible to the user and let us sort that way (played vs unplayed)
in any case, very cool program. i love gui-fying these kinds of stuff lately.
 It Would Be Awesome
#33 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/16 09:46:04
if you could find out what happens there, so I can work-around/bug-report/warn in the readme. I'm trying to think of a way you could transfer that folder to me while preserving the windows specific settings... but I can't come up with something. Or we'd need a tool that lists all file/directory properties.
#34 posted by Spirit [80.171.9.132] on 2010/07/16 12:26:35
Comments is something I first have to provide an API for at Quaddicted. Definitely something I will do.
Having maps marked as played is one of my wishes too.
 We Still Need A Good Concept For That
#35 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/16 13:10:01
#36 posted by Trinca [194.65.24.228] on 2010/07/16 13:14:29
<>Having maps marked as played is one of my wishes too.</>
I need a market replayed map since I've already play and replayed all :)
#37 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/16 19:26:22
hm, just noticed something today... settings are being remembered and it starts up like a fresh install each time.
as for the folder settings, i haven't got a clue. i had both security tabs opened at the same time and compared settings and they were identical.
 Necros
#38 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/16 20:20:56
check if there's a config.properties file in the directory where you extracted the .jar s to.
if there isn't or it still refuses to work, try this:
1) open a cmd.exe prompt in the injector dir (or navigate there)
2) run 'java -jar quakeinjector.jar'
3) post the output here (right at the beginning it should report reading the config file)
works fine here on the win 7 laptop.
#39 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/16 20:50:04
/Inject2_16.png
Reading configuration...class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $ZipContentsDatabaseUrl: Setting to null or default
done.
/Inject2_32.png
/Inject2_48.png
/Inject2_256.png
Setting window bounds: 0, 0, 661, 608
Setting Requirements
No Installed packages file (installedMaps.xml), no packages installed?
(added a few spaces to prevent ... conversion)
also of note, when i click 'Apply' in the engine config dialog box, the console outputs:
class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $EngineCommandLine: Setting to
null or default
Setting downloadpath: c:\games\quake\downloads
class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $DownloadPath Setting downloadp
ath to null
class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $DownloadPath: Setting to null
or default
Writing configuration...Writing EngineExecutable to qs.bat from class de.haukere
hfeld.quakeinjector.Configuration $EngineExecutable: qs.bat
Writing EnginePath to c:\games\quake from class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Co
nfiguration$EnginePath: c:\games\quake
Writing MainWindowHeight to 608 from class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $MainWindowHeight: 608
Writing MainWindowPositionY to 0 from class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $MainWindowPositionY: 0
Writing MainWindowPositionX to 0 from class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $MainWindowPositionX: 0
Writing MainWindowWidth to 661 from class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector. Configuration $MainWindowWidth: 661
Can't write config file
done.
(again spaces added)
 Hmmm, Okay, I Need To Print The Exact Error Message
#40 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/17 12:21:04
I strongly suspect the directory is read-only?
Try this:
http://www.haukerehfeld.de/project...
Fixed the error message output so it will display the exception message.
 Open And Then Set Config Settings:
#41 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/17 18:02:15
Reading configuration...
Setting Requirements
No Installed packages file (installedMaps.xml), no packages installed?
downloadpath null, returning default
Setting downloadpath: c:\games\quake\downloads
class de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Conf... Setting downloadpath to null
Writing configuration...
Can't write config file: config.properties (Access is denied)
java.io.FileNotFoundException: config.properties (Access is denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Nati... Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init&... Source)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init&... Source)
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Conf...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Chan...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Engi...
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireAct... Source)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler... Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fir... Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.set... Source)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButton... Source)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEve... Source)
at javax.swing.JComponent.processMous... Source)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Un... Source)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Un... Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventIm... Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventIm... Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(U... Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.ret... Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.pro... Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dis... Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventIm... Source)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(... Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(U... Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpO... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.Dialog$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Dialog$3.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doP... Method)
at java.awt.Dialog.show(Unknown Source)
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at de.haukerehfeld.quakeinjector.Quak...
at javax.swing.SwingWorker$5.run(Unkn... Source)
at javax.swing.SwingWorker$DoSubmitAc... Source)
at sun.swing.AccumulativeRunnable.run... Source)
at javax.swing.SwingWorker$DoSubmitAc... Source)
at javax.swing.Timer.fireActionPerfor... Source)
at javax.swing.Timer$DoPostEvent.run(... Source)
at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dis... Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpO... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpE... Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(U... Source)
done.
downloadpath null, returning default
 Quakeinjector Directory Read-only?
#42 posted by megaman [88.134.26.210] on 2010/07/19 12:12:11
#43 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2010/07/19 18:45:50
i dunno, there's something with w7 where every single folder has the 'marked square' (not the checkmark) in read only.
i checked on the internet and it is said that that's just some security setting on the folder itself and windows doesn't actually enforce read only on folders, only files.
 New Releases
#44 posted by rj [86.0.165.149] on 2010/08/25 23:06:40
this may be more of a quaddicted gripe rather than specifically QI, but when will the archive get updated with the flurry of new releases recently strewn upon us? do i HAVE to go back to manually installing? really?? ;0
 Yeah, Sorry. :\
#45 posted by Spirit [80.171.95.151] on 2010/08/25 23:16:31
It is a half database, half plain xml mess at the moment so updating is a pain.
 Just Installed Quake Injector Again,
#46 posted by dooomer [65.49.68.150] on 2011/01/26 14:44:22
and ran into the same problem as necros has encountered. System is XP sp3.
I unchecked the "read-only" box under the right mouse menu of the folder, and when it asked me whether unread-only the folder and every thing inside it, or simply the folder itself alone, I chose the latter. Still not working.
So I launched cmd.exe, and "attrib -r"ed the folder. This time it worked!
So this may be something worth knowing.
#47 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/01/26 21:56:53
mmm, didn't work for me. :(
the concept of this tool is brilliant, really. in a way, it's probably a good thing this doesn't work. i'd probably end up playing way too much quake if it did. ^_^;
 Doesn't Work?
#48 posted by jt_ [24.11.39.160] on 2011/01/26 23:13:06
It works fine for me on windows 7. Quake is in c:/games
 Found A Bug,
#49 posted by dooomer [60.190.66.254] on 2011/01/27 03:19:43
Well, may be not a bug, but still something to be improved on:
I use darkplaces as the default engine.
I used Injector to download Warpspasm. It automatically downloaded Quoth, on which Warp depends. Everything was fine. But when I launched Warp (with DP as it's the default engine), I noticed that there was some model missing. A checking in console confirmed this. Using "path" command, I found Quoth was not loaded.
I know what was happening, but think Injector can be improved so that it can intelligently add -Quoth or any other parameter to the command line when launching the default engine, or auto switch to a preferred engine when playing some particular mod or map and the default engine is not fit for it.
 Option
#50 posted by jtarin [77.35.25.250] on 2011/01/27 04:27:59
Have the option to load installed maps or updatedb. Sometimes you just want to play a local map.
#51 posted by Spirit [80.171.95.46] on 2011/01/27 14:51:00
dooomer: Do you have a good suggestion on how to do that in a cross-platform and future safe way? Because that is the problem. Maybe ask LordHavoc to add -quoth. After all Darkplaces already supports a lot of such switches.
jtarin: I do not understand what you mean.
 I Think What Jtarin Means Is To Have Injector Search Maps
#52 posted by dooomer [122.238.254.169] on 2011/02/03 12:30:07
that have already been installed, by manual means before the coming of Injector.
As to my so-called bug report, I tried glwarp and fitzquake085, and both worked fine. So it seems that £É should have done more research. Thanks for this wonderful tool!
#53 posted by Spirit [80.171.127.163] on 2011/02/03 12:55:06
That is already supported.
 Still Thanks For The Non-bug Report
#54 posted by megaman [91.66.119.75] on 2011/02/03 17:10:39
though :D
 Bump!
#55 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/01 02:50:53
i know you can click the small, unnamed sorting button (to the left of 'Name') to sort installed maps first, but it would be nice if there was an option to always sort installed maps first, irregardless of sorting.
that is to say:
i click 'name' and it sorts alphabetically, but installed maps are first from a to z, then uninstalled maps, a to z.
i click rating and i get installed maps, 5 to 1 star, THEN uninstalled maps 5 to 1 star.
i'm imagining a config check box "always list installed maps first".
or even, two completely separate lists on two seperate tabs. and when you install, it disappears from the uninstalled list.
 ++
#56 posted by jt_ [24.11.39.160] on 2011/05/01 03:08:24
I find myself always sorting by installed, too.
 That's An Idea
#57 posted by megaman [88.66.2.233] on 2011/05/01 21:33:51
The option in the menu is much more likely though, because on a small display space is so limited ;-)
 That's An Idea
#58 posted by megaman [88.66.2.233] on 2011/05/01 21:33:52
The option in the menu is much more likely though, because on a small display space is so limited ;-)
#59 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/01 22:08:43
because on a small display space is so limited
the tab idea wouldn't take much more room though? just maybe 1 or 2 line's worth of space at the top.
tabs, not lists right, so when you click one tab, the other is replaced by it. basically two lists in the same spot. unless i'm not understanding why it would take so much space.
 Oh
#60 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/01 22:12:38
and while i'm wishing for stuff, a way to sort by installed date would be nice too. once your list of installed maps grows large, if you install more than one map at once that aren't the same spot in your alphabetical list, you can loose them.
 Uh Triple Postie... Sorry.
#61 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/01 22:15:59
is there a way to get the injector to scan the /quake/id1/maps directory and mark any maps it finds there as installed or is this moving beyond the goal of the app? as a long time quake player, my /maps folder is filled with hundreds of map files and i often find i'm reinstalling maps that are already there.
mind you, i'm not saying that it should scan for mods, but i think simply scanning for bsp files in the /id1/maps dir is fairly straightforward.
#62 posted by Spirit [80.171.96.169] on 2011/05/01 22:30:41
Tabs would be awesome. Generally more search/sorting options.
The Injector does scanning! Make sure you have the alpha2. "Check for installed maps" in the menu. Make a backup beforehand just in case (I don't think it could do anything wrong but you never know).
#63 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/02 00:30:29
haha yeah, i'm retarded-- it's right in the file menu. ^_^;
 However...
#64 posted by necros [99.227.131.204] on 2011/05/02 00:33:22
it only found a small fraction of installed maps.
is it being picky and searching for both bsp and text files? cause in the old days, i would never extract the readmes, just the bsp.
 Spirit Has Control Over That
#65 posted by megaman [88.66.2.233] on 2011/05/02 01:19:38
each file gets a flag.
if your structure/naming is wrong or you modified the files (crc check), it can't find them though.
would be interesting if you could zip up a structure of files that it doesn't find so i can test (or take a look at it).
 Oh Btw
#66 posted by megaman [88.66.2.233] on 2011/05/02 01:25:43
spirit, do you remember how to filter for installed maps? :-) it was once possible, but i can't remember how, and maybe i disabled it (by mistake maybe)
 And
#67 posted by megaman [88.66.2.233] on 2011/05/02 01:26:57
i think a checkbox near the filter field "only installed" is the way to go
#68 posted by Spirit [80.171.81.191] on 2011/05/02 09:36:46
It would need to allow showing "not installed" too imo.
I can't remember being able to filter for that.
Scanning: Yeah, I think text files are required. You know me. But to be honest I do not remember how it works. For the sake of userfriendlyness textfiles should not be required. If I recall correctly we only scanned for filename collisions, allowing overwriting "non-essential files" (eg readme.txt or file_id.diz), at least that's how I understood it.
 This Is The List Of Files
#69 posted by megaman [88.64.189.241] on 2011/05/02 11:02:43
http://haukerehfeld.de/projects/qu...
essential="false" means that it won't be required for the install check.
Spirit needs to update it (I'm not even sure it was complete when I uploaded it).
#70 posted by Spirit [82.113.121.207] on 2011/05/02 16:28:24
I'll integrate it properly into the quaddicted database. The flag is already an option there and that way negke can help too. I guess making all textfiles not required for a successful "hit" would be a start, correct? That way you can play the map even if you are a terrible person.
Megaman: it does get used for conflict handling too, right? Then we would make a mess if eg quake/reader.txt was not "essential" because it would silently(?) Overwrite on a conflict.
 *readme.txt
#71 posted by Spirit [82.113.121.207] on 2011/05/02 16:29:18
 Yeah
#72 posted by megaman [88.64.189.241] on 2011/05/02 17:38:00
but injector doesn't overwrite stuff (maybe we should implement a "*_org.*" rename option). So you can then still play the map without the injector being able to extract the replay.
Basically everything should be marked non-essential that's not needed to play the map. I'm a bit unsure how to handle optional stuff that's used in the map, though. I'm leaning towards marking that as non-essential as well. The bsp makes total sense without the .tgas, as long as it loads and plays fine.
 Just Installed The Yahoo Toolbar
#73 posted by Spirit [80.171.29.125] on 2011/07/15 18:42:40
The readme should be windowised. It displays no newlines on Windows XP in Notepad.
Also a .bat file (java -jar quakeinjector.jar) would be a good addition.
It is also quite ugly on Windows XP. :-)
 Spiritttt
#74 posted by Friction [91.154.127.149] on 2011/07/15 19:07:39
Turn in your computer license, you're a loose cannon.
#75 posted by Trinca [89.154.55.252] on 2011/07/15 20:05:34
Still exists W|XP?
 Bat File Is Unnecessary
#76 posted by megaman [88.66.54.197] on 2011/07/15 21:41:05
you can just double click on the jar icon.
readme, huh, never noticed :D
 Java 6 Issue
#77 posted by peter tron [91.125.186.170] on 2012/02/05 14:31:19
I can't run it.
I need Java 6, and I can't upgrade from 5.5 to 6 on my 10.5.8 PPC Mac. I would have buy 10.6 (Snow leopard) or above to be able to upgrade to 6.
Is there a previous version that ('Beta', maybe?) doesn't use Java 6, so I can use this tool?
After all, it was made to prevent newcomers from jumping off of cliffs due to the stress of the manual installation process.
I'm hoping there is a solution, somewhere..
BR.
Baz.
#78 posted by necros [99.227.132.108] on 2012/02/05 17:39:42
https://gephi.org/users/install-ja...
i checked and my old leopard mac was using 1.5 too. this worked for me.
#79 posted by ericw [23.17.185.198] on 2012/02/06 01:09:20
I think the problem is, the official apple java 6 was never released for powerpc.
you could try this: (the "32-bit OpenJDK 7 Beta 1 for Mac OS X 10.5 PowerPC" download?):
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/stat...
btw, I was hacking at QuakeInjector a bit recently, and improving mac support. I got the build script set up to bundle the app like a normal mac application, added support for choosing the .app for your quake engine and having it find the executable, and storing preferences in ~/Library rather than the current directory.
here's a snapshot of the mac .app:
https://github.com/downloads/ericw...
my fork is at: https://github.com/ericwa/QuakeInj...
#80 posted by peter tron [46.208.188.238] on 2012/02/06 05:48:23
I have downloaded that app., but I am just not academic enough to understand how to get it installed. It involves using the terminal. I left a blog owner a msg, hopefully he'll get back to me to try and help me out. he seems to know what to do.
All I know is that apparently Java 7 can be installed on a 10.5 PPC Mac, I just don't know how.
Is there an older version of QI using Java 5?
BR.
Baz.
#81 posted by necros [99.227.132.108] on 2012/02/07 01:48:19
does java 6 just not work at all on the ppc (non x86/x64 architecture) then?
sorry, i only got into macs after they swapped to x86/x64.
 @ Necros:
#82 posted by peter tron [31.185.236.146] on 2012/02/07 02:32:24
Apparently it can, but the fact that it is isn't common knowledge.
There is this download for PPC MAC OS X 10.5:
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/stat...
This should enable 10.5 PPC's to install Java 7.
 Yeah,
#83 posted by ericw [23.17.185.198] on 2012/02/07 08:14:18
from what I've read java 6 on ppc isn't available at all from apple - and not even for 32bit intel, either (core non-2 duo?) - so this soylatte was a community developed build to support these.
peter tron, here is a forum post I found that might help:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpo...
just replace the "/Users/Owners/desktop/soy/&q... with the path you extracted it to.
 Also
#84 posted by ericw [23.17.185.198] on 2012/02/07 08:16:30
quakeinjector definitely uses some java 6 stuff.. not sure how hard it would be to back-port to java 5. it would be nice if QuakeInjector ran on PPC macs out of the box, though.
 What Java 6 Features
#85 posted by SleepwalkR [85.179.158.125] on 2012/02/07 08:32:22
does it use, anyway?
 SwingWorker
#86 posted by ericw [23.17.185.198] on 2012/02/07 09:38:32
was one class I noticed.. not sure what else
 Oh Apple
#87 posted by Spirit [80.171.145.40] on 2012/02/07 09:51:15
You make everything so easy and convenient and computers a joy to use.
 Spirit Calm Down
#88 posted by SleepwalkR [85.179.158.125] on 2012/02/07 09:58:33
PPC has been superseded by Intel as a platform in 2006, that's six years ago and Apple is clearly getting out of the Java business anyway. Of course support ends at some point.
The Apple VM stuff has been donated to OpenJDK in 2010, and there still is no workable solution from them.
 So, When Was Java 6 Released?
#89 posted by megaman [79.227.158.69] on 2012/02/12 02:56:39
Java SE 6 (December 11, 2006)
I guess a few months of support would really be asking too much! :-)
 What's Your Point?
#90 posted by SleepwalkR [92.231.225.147] on 2012/02/12 09:52:24
 Existing Maps/command Line Question
#91 posted by peter tron [87.115.214.75] on 2012/03/06 14:52:29
i now run a windows machine with java 6, so the qi works, cheers guv!
1) i read in an earlier page that qi runs well with 'existing maps'.
how do i get qi to open a previously installed map/mod that it it didn't install itself?
2) obviously qi gives sufficient command lines to the engine of choice, or it would ask the user to manually type it in all the time.
with hat in mind, i was wondering how i would i would customise qi, so it would remeber max_edicts & heapsize commands?
i know, there is a command line box in qi to input this, but is there a way to store/memorize these commands, so even if i loaded up a different map them went back to the previous one, it would recall the heapsize, edicts stuff?
 Retarded Spelling..
#92 posted by peter tron [87.115.214.75] on 2012/03/06 14:53:53
 Ah..
#93 posted by peter tron [87.115.214.75] on 2012/03/06 15:01:56
about 2):
would i just put heapsize & max_edicts commands in an autoexec file?
#94 posted by Spirit [80.171.159.15] on 2012/03/06 22:49:11
1) That "existing maps/mods" support only means maps/mods that you *could* install through the QI. You cannot manually add new things.
2) heapsize does not work in a autoexec.cfg. Generally things you use a dash - with do not work in config files. Only the + ones do. - are commandline parameters. With + you can pass commands and variables to the engine.
You could set those two in the main configuration box, won't hurt and you can just forget about it later. :)
I think for some releases we set those in the database too (that QI downloads on launch), not sure though to be honest.
 I See..
#95 posted by peter tron [87.113.144.197] on 2012/03/07 10:49:46
so i cannot make qi open a map/mod that i installed manually before downloading qi?
no worries, that's not really a problem as such..
so some maps/mods that are installed through qi have the necessary heapsize/zone/edicts commands automatically run?..cool..
so i'm assuming you won't know which ones do until they crash, and if they do, you know that you have to manually tap the relevant commands into the qi command config box?
is it normal to still have qs (my engine of choice with qi) spam the console with edicts/models/light maps warnings, even when you have input the right commands into the qi command config box?
i guess it doesn't matter if the game runs smoothly and doesn't crash!
 Peter
#96 posted by negke [31.18.185.232] on 2012/03/07 10:50:26
Unless otherwise stated, the maps at Quaddicted/Injector don't require fiddling around with heapsize and max_edicts. Those that do (should) automatically add the extra settings in QI. If you spot one that doesn't, please report it here.
 Actually
#97 posted by negke [31.18.185.232] on 2012/03/07 11:53:37
Maybe QI could or should automatically add -heapsize 32000 or 64000 if no custom value is set by the user or the map info. As a precaution for certain engines - for instance, Winquake only allocates 16 MB by default which is too little to run bigger levels.
#98 posted by Spirit [80.171.96.154] on 2012/03/07 13:30:06
The problem with these parameters is that they are not required by some engines and more importantly that there is the difference between software and GL engines (-heapsize vs -mem or even -winmem?). I don't really want to get into that hole any deeper.
#99 posted by negke [31.18.185.232] on 2012/03/07 14:17:53
I think heapsize works everywhere? It certainly does in Winquake. In engines that don't require heapsize customization the command is simply ignored.
 Zerstorer/qi Issue?
#100 posted by peter tron [87.113.144.197] on 2012/03/07 17:41:51
i installed this with qi successfully, but upon trying to play, it just takes me straight to the main quake start map.
it's not horrendously problematic, as i can just type game zer in the console, and that takes me to the zerstorer start map.
i just thought you might like to know that the full launch command doesn't appear to be initiated by the qi.
#101 posted by Spirit [80.171.96.154] on 2012/03/07 18:48:50
Hm, did you launch zer or zer11? zer11 was broken, I fixed it now.
#102 posted by peter tron [87.113.144.197] on 2012/03/07 19:15:08
it was zer.
i replaced the zer progs files with the zer11 patch, as i knew that was a patch fix.
anyways, spirit, cheers, it loads fine now!
i guess being that i'm new to these maps, i can feed yer updates on what maps/mods don't run properly in qi.
#103 posted by necros [174.113.119.133] on 2012/03/07 21:16:12
i only use the injector for one off maps... anything that's a mod i just install that myself.
the big appeal of the injector is having the quaddicted library available at my fingertips. but there are few big mods so installing them myself isn't an issue.
just throwing that out there...
 Existing Maps
#104 posted by megaman [79.227.148.154] on 2012/03/11 16:26:02
let injector scan for them from the menu
#105 posted by Spirit [80.171.128.172] on 2012/11/15 17:46:13
Playing around with Windows 7 I noticed that neither DirectQ nor Quakespasm (both slightly older versions) seem to write anything to stdout. This means we currently open an empty window just to annoy the user.
Also it looks really ugly on Windows. The serif font for the map description looks too Times New Roman I guess.
 Scratched The Quake Injector..,
#106 posted by MadFox [84.26.175.209] on 2012/11/28 09:23:30
#107 posted by Spirit [80.171.163.177] on 2012/11/28 16:21:52
Nice!
 Jappers And Mobs
#108 posted by MadFox [84.26.175.209] on 2012/11/28 21:40:24
It's modelled to the Quakaddict logo.
I was thinking of filling the ring with a running soldier, while the heart could be a gimmick of a demo slowly turning quakedammage.
Then I read your post again in jobs & mappers and realized you needed something tottaly different.
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