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              <h5 align="right"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#00025E"><img src="../../images/icons/mouth_final.jpg" width="192" height="236" align="left"><loonystart>Vol. 
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                I get into this week&#146;s column, I should apologize for the 
                scattered updates last week. Sadly, e-mail problems disrupted 
                my normal schedule, preventing a few of them from going up. All 
                is well now, however, so don&#146;t worry. We&#146;ve got lots 
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                I&#146;m going to talk about a favorite subject of mine this week, 
                classic console systems. As I&#146;ve already stated here and 
                elsewhere, I&#146;m a collector of old game systems. In the last 
                few days, I&#146;ve acquired a NEC TurboGrafx 16, a brand new 
                Atari Jaguar CD, and a boatload of new games. Not to mention that 
                I&#146;ve got my eye on one of those 3DO systems. </font></p>
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                any obsessive collector, there are certain items that I would 
                give anything to get my hands on. In every hobby this is the case...from 
                comics to baseball cards, no matter what you collect, there are 
                specific things that are truly the holy grail to collectors.</font></p>
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                holy grail(s) of console collecting. And hey, if you know where 
                I can find one, feel free to let me know. :)</font></p>
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              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">There 
                are rare systems, all right, like the original Odyssey system 
                from Magnavox. It was actually the first home gaming system, and 
                it&#146;s difficult to find, no question about it. While the Odyssey 
                2 was released in the late seventies (and is relatively easy to 
                find if you know where to look), the original Odyssey system was 
                released in 1972. That&#146;s a full 16 years before the Atari 
                revolution. The system was pretty pathetic &#150; it had no CPU 
                (they hadn&#146;t been invented yet!) and while it took cartridges, 
                they didn&#146;t actually add anything new to the system, they 
                enabled games already programmed on the hardware to be played. 
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              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">And of 
                course, it didn&#146;t really have any &#147;graphics.&#148; It 
                came with overlays that you taped to your television in order 
                to get any sort of graphical experience. And of course, it was 
                black and white. It&#146;s not too difficult to find an Odyssey, 
                they are out there. But finding a working one with all the parts 
                (it came with quite a bit) can be a bit of a challenge.</font></p>
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              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">But at 
                least that system actually exists. The real holy grails for collectors 
                are the systems that never actually shipped...in some cases, the 
                ones that were never even confirmed to exist by the developer.</font></p>
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              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">First 
                up: Atari&#146;s Panther. In the late 1980&#146;s when Atari decided 
                they were going to get back into the video game business, they 
                started a massive research project to get things underway. Those 
                of us who were hardcore into the console scene back then recall 
                rumors floating around about first a system called &#147;Panther&#148; 
                and then later one called &#147;Jaguar.&#148; What was really 
                wacky about the rumors, is that all kinds of numbers were floating 
                around. It was a 32 bit system. It was a 64 bit system. It used 
                cartridges, it used CDs. All manner of strangeness was coming 
                out from Atari&#146;s research division.</font></p>
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              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">There&#146;s 
                that saying that there&#146;s a little bit of truth in every rumor...well, 
                in this case, there was a lot of it, but the problem was that 
                all the facts got run together. In actuality, Atari wasn&#146;t 
                developing one system, they were developing two. There was the 
                Panther, and then the Jaguar. The Jaguar, a pseudo 64-bit system 
                (no need to get into technical details there) was eventually released, 
                first as a console system, and later they released a CD-ROM add-on. 
                But there was, in fact a second system, which was 32-bit. </font></p>
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