<html>

<head>
<title>loonygames presents: Painting on Polygons - 2D Art and videogames</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<style type="text/css">
a { text-decoration: none; }
a:hover { color:000000;  text-decoration: underline; }


</style>
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFF4D0" link="#3333FF" vlink="#000000" alink="#000000">
<center>
</center>
<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#3596B3" height="58">
  <tr> 
    <td height="69" width="29%" align="left" valign="top"> 
      <div align="left"> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF"><b><i><img src="../../images/logo_new.jpg" width="182" height="63" border="0" usemap="#logoa"> 
        </i></b></font></div>
    </td>
    <td height="69" width="29%" align="center" valign="top"> <center>
<script type="text/javascript"><!--
google_ad_client = "ca-pub-2373963192914918";
/* 468x60 */
google_ad_slot = "3417104156";
google_ad_width = 468;
google_ad_height = 60;
//-->
</script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">
</script>
</center>
 
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#3596B3" height="29">
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../about.1"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF"><b><font size="2">about</font></b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../feedback.1"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>feedback</b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../archives/index.html"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>archives</b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <b><a href="../../../submissions/index.html"><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">submissions</font></a></b></td>
  </tr>
</table>
<div align="center"> <br>
</div>
<table width="100%" border="0">
  <tr> 
    <td width="72%"> 
      <h5><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">//<a href="../../../index.html"><font color="#7C420E">loonygames</font></a>://<a href="../index.html"><font color="#7C420E">issue 
        2.8</font></a>://<a href="index.html"><font color="#7C420E">painting on polygons</font></a>://1, 
        <a href="index2.php"><font color="#7C420E">2</font></a></font></b></h5>
    </td>
    <td align="right" valign="middle" width="28%"> 
      <div align="right"> 
        <h5><a href="http://www.loonygames.com/includes/printme.pl?url=/2.8/pop/&amp;withimages=yes"><img src="../../images/icons/print01.gif" width="27" height="27" align="baseline" border="0" alt="switch to printer-friendly version"></a></h5>
      </div>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<br>
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
  <tr> 
    <td align="center" valign="top" width="25%"> 
      <table border="0" width="99%" bgcolor="#D7B582" align="center" bordercolor="#E0E0E0">
        <tr> 
          <td align="LEFT" valign="TOP" width="100%"> <font color="#000000" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> 
            <!--#exec
cgi="/includes/rand_quot.cgi"--> </font> <p><webdog><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#0022A8"><b><font color="#693A0C">What's 
           new today:</font></b></font> 
          
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="../../../index.html" target=""><b><font color="#00025E">New!!!</font></b></a><br></b>
  The archives have been cleaned up, dead links fixed, and the printable versions restored! Also, don't miss the new comments on the main page!</font></p>

 
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="../../2.15/feat/index.html" target=""><b><font color="#00025E">Livin' 
  With The Sims</font></b></a><br></b>
  theAntiELVIS explores the wild and wacky world that is Will Wright's <b>The Sims</b>, 
  asking the inevitable quesiton, &quot;is <b>The Sims</b> the first step toward a virtual 
  life where everyone is Swedish?&quot;</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="../../2.15/pixel/index.html" target=""><b><font color="#00025E">Pixel 
  Obscura </font></b></a></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br>
  Josh Vasquez on <b>Omikron: The Nomad Soul</b>.</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="../../rl/index.html" target=""><b><font color="#00025E">Real 
  Life </font></b></a></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br>
  Check out our newest comic strip, <b>Real Life</b>! Updated daily!</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="../../uf.1" target=""><b><font color="#00025E">User 
  Friendly</font></b></a></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br>
  Updated daily!</font></p>
<p></webdog> </p>
 
            <p></p>
            <p> </p>
            <p></p>
            <!--#include virtual="/includes/includes/commerce_ssi.htm" --> 
            <!--#include virtual="/includes/includes/art_ssi.htm" --></td>
        </tr>
      </table>
      <br>
      <table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#D7B582">
        <tr bgcolor="#D7B582"> 
          <td> 
            <div align="center"> 
              <p align="left"><font size="-1"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#0022A8"><b><font color="#00025E">Random 
                Feature:</font></b></font> </font> </p>
              <p><!--#exec
cgi="/includes/rand_thumb.cgi"--><i><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2"> 
                </font> </i></p>
            </div>
          </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
      <br>
      <table width="99%" border="0" bgcolor="#D7B582">
        <tr> 
          <td> 
            <div align="center"> 
              <form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/custom" name="">
                <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1"><b><font color="#339900">Search 
                the Archives!</font></b></font> 
               
                 <INPUT TYPE=text name=q size=12 maxlength=255 value="">
 <INPUT type=submit name=sa VALUE="Google Search">
 <INPUT type=hidden name=cof 
VALUE="LW:216;L:http:/home/loonygames/loony.timedoctor.org/content/images/logo1.jpg;LH:55;AH:center;S:http://www.loonygames.com;AWFID:13a298c7abe84fd0;">
<input type=hidden name=domains value="loonygames.com"> 
<input type=hidden name=sitesearch value="loonygames.com">               
</div>
              </form>

              <p align="left"><i> </i></p>
            </div>
          </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
    </td>
    <td width="75%" align="center" valign="top"> 
      <table width="90%" border="0" cellpadding="0" align="center">
        <tr> 
          <td width="50%" valign="top"> 
            <div align="center"> 
              <h5 align="right"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#00025E"><img src="../../images/icons/pop_final.jpg" width="193" height="238" align="left"><loonystart>Vol. 
                2, Issue 8<br>
                January 12, 2000</font></b></h5>
              <h5 align="right"><font color="#00025E"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 
                </font></b></font></h5>
              <div align="center">
                <p align="center"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0000FF"><i><font color="#904C10" size="3">Painting 
                  on Polygons:</font></i></font></b></p>
                <p align="center"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0000FF"><i><font color="#904C10" size="6"> 
                  <font size="5">Looking For Employment as an Artist</font></font></i></font></b></p>
                <p align="right"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">by 
                  Rick &quot;<a href="mailto:flat@iserv.net">Flatness</a>&quot; 
                  Grossenbacher</font></p>
              </div>
              <script language="JavaScript">

<!--
       function gotoSite(obj)
          {
          var s;
          s=obj.options[obj.selectedIndex].value
                         location.href=s;
          }
// -->

</script>
              <!--#include virtual="/includes/includes/gc.htm" --> 
              <p align="right">&nbsp;</p>
              <p align="right">&nbsp;</p>
              <p align="left"> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="../../images/letters_new/i.jpg" width="10" height="39" align="left">&#146;ve 
                gotten some e-mails from people wondering about how to get into 
                the game industry as an artist. First off, if you haven&#146;t 
                read it, you should check out <a href="../../1.12/totb/index.html">Paul 
                Steed&#146;s 6/29/99 article here on loonygames</a> about getting 
                a job as an artist. It is a pretty comprehensive article that 
                offers a lot of good advice. Since I&#146;ve still been getting 
                e-mails about this though, I just wanted to do a small write-up 
                of my own ideas while trying to stay away from anything Paul has 
                already covered so this wasn&#146;t a rehashed article.</font></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Besides 
                raw talent, one of the biggest things that game companies look 
                for is experience. Having actual experience making a game within 
                a game company setting is always a huge plus in the eyes of any 
                potential employer. And I&#146;m not talking about making a shareware 
                game on your own time -- but that too is always nice experience. 
                What I&#146;m referring to is being with a company and knowing 
                the whole process of making a game from start to completion, meeting 
                deadlines and milestones, and understanding <i>exactly</i> what 
                needs to be done.</font></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">At this 
                point you are probably saying: &#147;Yeah, but if I don&#146;t 
                have any experience how can I get any?&#148; That&#146;s the monumental 
                question, isn&#146;t it? I hate to say this but I really don&#146;t 
                have a wonderful answer to that question. But I do have some advice 
                to offer. Getting a job doing computer graphics for web pages 
                can be a definite start, but it isn&#146;t really game making 
                now is it? I think the best advice I can give is to shoot for 
                a smaller company. If you are someone who has no experience in 
                making games and is trying to get an position with one of the 
                top-ten game companies out there, your chances are probably somewhat 
                slim. They tend to have extremely high standards. For one, companies 
                generally don&#146;t want to train you for weeks and weeks unless 
                they absolutely have to. There are exceptions to this rule, however. 
                If you are someone with unbridled talent, they might give you 
                a serious look even if you don&#146;t have any experience. But 
                trust me, not having a single shred of experience will definitely 
                be points against you -- even if you are a graphics demi-god.</font></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">A good 
                way to start looking is to scour the Internet for positions. Check 
                out the listings at <a href="http://www.3dcafe.com">www.3dcafe.com</a> 
                or <a href="http://www.3dartist.com">www.3dartist.com</a> or even 
                do a search for game companies and check out their websites. That 
                is exactly what I did. I also spent a lot of time researching 
                the companies I was interested in, and boom-bam, it worked! I 
                had three years experience as a traditional graphic artist before 
                I got my first job in the game industry so that experience helped 
                somewhat, but I spent so much time making my portfolio cater to 
                the specific company that I was applying for that I was noticed. 
                That&#146;s what I think the key is.</font></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Another 
                thing is make sure you are applying for a position that is specific 
                to what you do. Just because you are good at 2-D doesn&#146;t 
                necessarily mean you will be good at 3-D (and contrastly as well). 
                I&#146;ve seen mistakes in that area far too often. For instance, 
                I&#146;ve seen <i>many</i> people who were great, and I mean great 
                conceptional artists, but they didn&#146;t have a clue when it 
                came to making <i>video-game graphics</i>! They just didn&#146;t 
                know the skill of &#147;pixel-pushing.&#148; By pixel-pushing 
                I mean drawing at the pixular level or using the tools of Photoshop 
                or Illustrator sensibly. They only knew traditional drawing skills 
                (which are great, but not always enough).</font></p>
              <p></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              </loonystart>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"></p>
              <p align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></p>
              <p align="right"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="index2.php"><font color="#7C420E"><b><font size="+1">Next 
                &gt;&gt;</font></b></font> </a></font> </p>
              </DIV>
            </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<br>
<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#3596B3" height="29">
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../about.1"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>about</b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../feedback.1"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>feedback</b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <a href="../../../archives/index.html"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>archives</b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="25%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#86531A"> 
      <b><a href="../../../submissions/index.html"><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">submissions</font></a></b></td>
  </tr>
</table>
<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#3596B3" height="29">
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" width="35%"><a href="../../../index.html"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF"><b><i>loonygames</i></b></font></a></td>
    <td height="20" width="65%"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF"><!--#exec
cgi="/includes/rand_bot.cgi"--></font></div>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<p><i><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">Credits: Illustration 
  &copy; 2000 Dan Zalkus. Painting on Polygons is &copy; 2000 Rick Grossenbacher. 
  All other content is &copy; 2000 loonyboi productions. Unauthorized reproduction 
  is prohibited, you cartoonish villian, you.</font></i></p>
 <map name="logoa">
  <area shape="rect" coords="52,47,112,59" href="http://www.bluesnews.com">
  <area shape="rect" coords="3,3,179,46" href="../../../index.html">
</map>
</body>
</html>
