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Avoozl
2017-04-08 16:31:50

Too bad you can't also use the exclusive music, textures, and sky effects present in QII64, but other than that this is great! Aubrey Hodges was the music composer for the 64 version and he is actually okay with people using his games music in their mods.

Joca64
2016-09-16 09:28:05
ArrrCee wrote:

Ha! Fair enough on the controller comparison, Just trying my hand at some light humor. ;)

The reason I say that about the Quake 2 version could be easier is while Quake 64 is basically the pc game on a cartridge, Quake 2 on N64 is an different/new game. I would think that it was designed specifically for play on the n64 controller?

Yeah, it was made with controller in mind, the game doesn't even have crouch, as far as I remember. So it will probably be easier playing it on PC when compared to the original. Hard+ wasn't a thing on the Nintendo 64 version though, so if you play it on skill 4 it can still balance it out a bit.

MaxED wrote:

If you are fine with those, I'd be glad if you can join the effort.

I'll download Jackhammer and mess around with it, see if I can get used to it. Maybe try and replicate the initial room of one of the levels up ahead or something.

MaxED
2016-09-14 08:59:52
Joca64 wrote:

I started to recreate the big water room from the first map.

Heh. I also started with this room :)

I guess I'll have to write some stuff about my project now.

The mapping guidelines I've set for myself:
1. Use Q2 N64 textures, create new textures (either based on N64 ones, or fitting with them) if necessary (in other words, don't use Q2 PC textures).
2. Add more details where necessary (basically I'm aiming for "the way people remember it", not "the way it actually looks" look).
3. More natural looking illumination (e.g. all lights should have some logical source).
4. All map areas should have colored fog.
5. Try to make secret areas look like something build with purpose (e.g. make them look like maintenance areas/machinery compartments/passages to inaccessible areas), as opposed to item closets in the N64 version.

If you are fine with those, I'd be glad if you can join the effort.

The tools I use:
I don't have any map extractor/converter, so I'm also recreating the maps from scratch.
1. Jackhammer to create maps.
2. Arghrad3 to compile lights.
3. Project64 to play the N64 version.
4. 3D Ripper DX to capture both textures and map geometry (to use as a reference while mapping).
5. An .obj converter tool I wrote to make models generated by 3D Ripper more usable in 3d modeling apps (basically it fixes incorrect vertical scale, mirrors the model on X axis so it matches ingame look, adds the .mtl file reference to the .obj file and converts textures from .dds to .tga).

Some additional stuff you may be interested in:
I've created a custom Jackhammer game configuration for this. I can upload it if anyone's interested.
Arghrad3 manual.
Lazarus mod documentation and example maps.

The questions I have:
1. Is there a way to make the sky unaffected by fog in KMQ2?..

Doc_Holliday
2016-09-14 07:38:32

I've been trying to find Q2 Awakening but to no avail.
Can you guys help?
Thanks in advance

Doc

ArrrCee
2016-09-13 19:21:46

Ha! Fair enough on the controller comparison, Just trying my hand at some light humor. ;)

The reason I say that about the Quake 2 version could be easier is while Quake 64 is basically the pc game on a cartridge, Quake 2 on N64 is an different/new game. I would think that it was designed specifically for play on the n64 controller?

bfg666
2016-09-13 00:04:28

Not necessarily. I played Quake64 on that monster of a controller and I don't recall it being any different than the PC version. BTW, you might want to rethink your "TIE fighter gamepad" designation: TIEs are supposed to be the most agile fighters in that galaxy far, far away, not cumbersome disasters-waiting-to-happen.

ArrrCee
2016-09-12 19:29:29

This is really cool, would love to see the full game available to play some day! Though I bet it would be a lot easier than the PC Quake 2 since it was designed to be played with the tie fighter gamepad. ;)

bfg666
2016-09-12 10:56:42

Yeah. I still have my N64 stashed somewhere but even if it still works, I certainly won't touch another FPS with that horrid gamepad ever again. Or with any other gamepad for that matter. Good to know that MaxED has made progress.

Joca64
2016-09-12 10:24:00
bfg666 wrote:

MaxED still has only one map done and I'd hate that either of you gets discouraged by the size of the task ahead, because I'd really like to play this version of Q2.

The github repository actually has the first 3 maps completed now. But yeah, if I can help, I'll try to. Being able to play the full N64 version with mouse+keyboard controls would be great.

bfg666
2016-09-12 10:19:38

Well at least two pairs of hands work faster than one and you could help him with the less complex parts. MaxED still has only one map done and I'd hate that either of you gets discouraged by the size of the task ahead, because I'd really like to play this version of Q2.

Joca64
2016-09-12 09:48:26
bfg666 wrote:

You should contact MaxED. As I said earlier, you could merge your two projects and work together to make faster progress and avoid redundancy.

I left him a message on github. Honestly dont know how much help I can be though, as this is the most complex mapping I've ever done, really x)


negke wrote:

It doesn't work like this. Even if you could extract those files, they would have a different version number that PC Quake engines are unable to load.

I'm guessing the missing entities would also wreck havok.

negke
2016-09-12 07:35:08

It doesn't work like this. Even if you could extract those files, they would have a different version number that PC Quake engines are unable to load.

fake
2016-09-11 11:31:28

It should be possible to extract BSP's from N64 rom image, but don't ask me how to do it ^^ There is a guy that did this with Quake1 Sega Saturn -> http://richwhitehouse.com/index.php?postid=68

bfg666
2016-09-10 20:53:51
Joca64 wrote:

Hot damn, his version looks much closer to the original, thanks to the textures. I wonder if he's also making the maps from scratch or adapting the ones in the rom somehow.
I guess I should have searched the web better before doing anything x) Still happy with my end result though.

You should contact MaxED. As I said earlier, you could merge your two projects and work together to make faster progress and avoid redundancy.

Qwerty
2016-09-10 18:53:30

Thank you so much for this, I had dreamed of the day someone would do it.

Quake 2 it's not my favorite, I just love the first one way too much, but for some reason I always wanted to play a PC mod of Quake 2 64. Not sure why, maybe because of the very fact of being unavailable (playing through an emulator -Project64- was a PITA). It reminded me the time I waited years for the release of Half Life Decay, a similar fan project. There's something about these obscure, rare releases that makes you wanna play them.

Of course there is a bit of nostalgia, getting your hands on "new" content for a classic. Also, call me crazy, but I think the small levels are cute, like those 1024 Congestion/Claustrophobia compilations the Doom community produces. Modding is truly one of the great things about gaming!

Again, I really appreciate your generosity in sharing your work, Joca64. It would be great if you decide to continue, here's a cheering to that.

PD: thank you dwere for the links, I wasn't aware of that project either.

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