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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby leileilol » Tue May 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Just to make things clear to Qbism

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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby qbism » Wed May 21, 2014 3:18 am

The code I showed is indeed from d_polyse.c. Must have been a brain fart. Also I see Spiney is referring to world lighting. The colored light noise I was talking about would be a similar lookup in DrawSurfaceBlock functions. This light dithering option not implemented in engoo, but it is in super8. Engoo doesn't really need it. In super8 extreme blocking occurs due to 8-bit colored light and simple ordered dither is not enough. Needs very sloppy noise to smear it around.

I noticed that in the previous update I uploaded, the palette can get messed-up the pcx screenshot files. It needs to use 'thepalette' (global palette) rather than generating one. That will be fixed in next build.

Re: Ground Zero, wonder if that's an openGL effect only?
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby dwere » Wed May 21, 2014 7:58 am

Well, it works fine in software mode with r_coloredlights 0.
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby leileilol » Wed May 21, 2014 5:41 pm

The problem's more in the fact BuildLightmapRGB doesn't have negative lights in there IIRC, being a direct port from Engoo code.
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby dwere » Wed May 21, 2014 8:06 pm

The 3.24 archive I downloaded has all the files, including dlls for mission packs.
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby dwere » Thu May 22, 2014 7:09 am

It works in GZ with r_coloredlights 2, but the effect is inverted with r_coloredlights 1.
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby qbism » Wed May 28, 2014 1:09 am

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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby leileilol » Wed May 28, 2014 2:28 am

Yeah but it doens't always look better when in the palette, which is why I put in the option to shift so it can be at the level with the crappy way Q2 GL treats lighting, id software unknowingly divided the Q2 player community from that :P
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby qbism » Wed May 28, 2014 2:56 am

'In the palette' referring to lack of high-value colors available? Q2 palette is quite dim. Fortunately even with overbright on, colored lighting is seldom strong enough to get washed-out. Normal mono lighting is still shifted into Too Dark! as normal.
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby qbism » Fri May 30, 2014 3:47 am

While looking for bright/intense/not-orange lighting to try out, found this map:
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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

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Re: Q2 ref_soft replacement with colored light

Postby qbism » Sat May 31, 2014 3:46 am

What can't be achieved with gamma and the new color saturation cvar? These give more control and work with negative lighting.
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