#1 posted by gila [5.18.222.148] on 2016/10/20 11:40:06
 Awesome!
#2 posted by khreathor [78.88.31.113] on 2016/10/20 11:57:02
I'll give it a try during upcoming weekend!
 Wish It Was Compatible
#3 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/10/20 19:25:13
With BloodCM. I have GOG but it runs like poop.
#4 posted by Killes [46.89.143.163] on 2016/10/21 07:42:53
I am so waiting for BloodXL http://xlengine.com/ but who knows, could be months or years :/
GOG/DosBox Blood should run ok with reasonable resolution settings etc, checked the guides on GOG forums etc ?
#5 posted by Mugwump [80.215.203.116] on 2016/10/21 16:07:07
One Unit Whole Blood runs fine on an 8 (?) years old Core2Duo.
 Played Through It
#6 posted by gila [5.18.222.148] on 2016/10/21 19:13:35
found 0 secrets :(
good stuff, great level of detail, especially considering how to make certain things in build engine
loved the stuff like the lever switch suspended on a chain, made out of wall and floor sprites obviously, but looks awesome
cool puzzle with the symbols too.
was expecting some boss at the end, but was just some mobs and end-level switch.
one special mention is the sloped sector-over-sector (or whatever it's called) trapdoor. i don't think i've ever saw one like that in all the official levels from any of the well-known four build engine games.
 Thanks For Playing!
#7 posted by quakis [82.20.14.52] on 2016/10/21 23:05:29
Decided against having a boss or large fight at the end considering I have plans for later levels from this point forward, wanted to stick with a slower pace here before things pick up in the next one.
You might also enjoy my Duke3D release from last year; http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61229
Cheers!
 Amazing Map
#8 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/10/22 00:51:41
Really loved this, proper halloween treat!
The only thing I struggled with was the symbol puzzle. I was reading all the information for clues. I then tried to put them in the order that I came across them.... then I cheated by looking at the forum post on duke4
#9 posted by medve [85.67.35.252] on 2016/10/22 09:52:08
why dont people develope custom maps for the eduke blood project instead?
#10 posted by skacky [90.0.194.132] on 2016/10/22 19:10:14
Because it's not Blood.
 Good Map Quakis
#11 posted by skacky [90.0.194.132] on 2016/10/22 21:17:14
Very enjoyable with some high quality architecture and design. The puzzle wasn't too hard to figure out and I liked the use of dynamite cultists who more often than not killed themselves and their colleagues. The ending felt a bit anticlimactic though.
 Very Awesome
#12 posted by nakasuhito [174.52.250.116] on 2016/10/23 01:50:10
i have played very few user maps for blood, but this one is indeed wicked stuff. lots of really nice details.i did have trouble with the puzzle until it just worked for me. very awesome map though. :D
#13 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/10/23 11:35:55
BloodCM is pretty damn faithful tbh. I managed to suffer dosbox but a more native solution would have been better.
I get less than great frames and I get a lot of graphical glitches like weapons as nd the hud disappearing.
 Thanks For All The Feedback Guys, Appreciated!
#14 posted by quakis [82.20.14.52] on 2016/10/23 16:32:50
@Skacky: Hopefully the ending won't feel so anticlimatic once later levels in the series are available. Unless there's something in particular you feel could be improved here despite that?
@BloodCM: While a neat emulation of Blood, it's not quite a 1:1 replica. That and amongst other reasons, I'd rather stick with mapping for the original game honestly.
 More BloodCM Thoughts
#15 posted by FifthElephant [86.10.140.204] on 2016/10/23 17:38:37
It would be great if there was a way to make cross compatible maps or have a conversion tool. Or even a way of saving in both file formats.
As much as I love Blood I just detest the compatibility issues
#16 posted by dwere [213.87.163.8] on 2016/10/24 03:09:54
So there's now a decent way to play the original game without DOSBox lags? This is really cool.
Too bad about custom content.
#17 posted by Killes [91.1.52.209] on 2016/10/24 08:17:29
dwere no, BloodCM really is not the same. Its more cosmetic tc of duke with approximate movement feel of blood but its not it.
Ray of hope here is the XLEngine project I linked above.
But otherwise, what the fuck are people on about laggy and whatnot Blood dosbox ?
Granted you may need a tad of tinkering with the settings, and make sure you are using BMOUSE but its perfectly smooth and playable with even a lower end machine.
#18 posted by dwere [213.87.163.8] on 2016/10/24 08:40:37
I'm glad it works so well for you.
#19 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/10/24 10:15:31
Runs poor on my machine. I have an i7 4790k and a gtx 970.
I even tried installing windows 95 through a virtual machine but I couldn't get it to work
 @Fifth
#20 posted by khreathor [91.217.18.31] on 2016/10/24 13:52:26
Maybe fiddle with cpu cycle settings in DosBox?
#21 posted by FifthElephant [86.10.140.204] on 2016/10/24 21:48:13
I'll survive. Pretty certain I suffered playing quake at 15fps back in the day.
The framerate is not a big deal compared to the disappearing hud and weapons.
#22 posted by Rick [75.65.153.192] on 2016/10/24 23:14:53
"Pretty certain I suffered playing quake at 15fps back in the day."
I played the original Quake demo on a 486DX2-50. Even at 320x200 or whatever it was, 15 fps was just wishful thinking.
#23 posted by Killes [46.89.142.208] on 2016/10/26 17:26:38
Well not sure what version you are using etc but there are plenty guides around on optimizing performance with dosbox.
The biggest effect and main take-away is to reduce the games internal resolution to 640x480
There are fixes for the flashing hud and weapons too, nolfblim
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286998267
#24 posted by dwere [213.87.131.247] on 2016/10/27 00:45:04
In my case it's not about the version I'm using, but rather the hardware I'm stuck with.
It wasn't a low-end laptop when I bought it, but it was several years ago, and, well, it's a laptop. Running 3D games in DOSBox is a CPU-intensive task, regardless of settings.
And I can't upgrade because I'm a cheap bum.
Of course, you can simply say that it's my problem. Never said it wasn't.
#25 posted by Killes [46.89.143.145] on 2016/10/27 07:43:11
 #23
#26 posted by quakis [82.20.14.52] on 2016/10/27 08:12:27
Cheers for linking that guide, finally fixed the annoying flashing hud problem and in turn also stopped tiles flickering in the editor's texture browser too. That'll make that part of mapping less of an eyesore!
#27 posted by scar3crow [216.235.129.122] on 2016/10/27 22:29:35
i opend doors and later ded pls fix
I forgot about the doors auto-closing, and got crushed by double doors while checking for cultists.
So, I didn't get far, but I hope to play more of it tomorrow on my lunch break :)
 Cool Fix
#28 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/10/28 01:23:28
Thanks Killes. I can now play Blood without much in the way of issues!
#29 posted by Badb0y [84.46.59.39] on 2016/10/31 12:34:59
its a good map, technique wise very good. maybe a bit short, kind of a teaser map as the author mentioned. enemy placement could be a bit better.
i liked the duke map a lot.
 Sweet Dreams
#30 posted by scar3crow [216.235.129.122] on 2016/10/31 18:01:08
Okay, actually finished it. I do most of my gaming on lunch breaks at work so it took a while to get the game working well on this machine, and then playing it.
I like it, a lot. A little more of a puzzle than I am used to with Blood, but, all the pieces were there before me - I just looked in the wrong direction first (tried inferring meaning, then tried going through the various journals, and noting order of symbol discovery). I loved the mood of the map, and the amount of gameplay that was fit into one space while still retaining a sense of discovery.
I found the Use to read items to be very clever, and enjoyed the microsecrets such as bullets behind potted plants, and items being used as decoration.
I found the difficulty on Normal to be a bit easy, but that is a conundrum with Blood since I hate the damage/health profiles above that... Never did use the remote dynamite or aerosol. Typically full or nearly full on all ammo.
Almost missed the shotgun entirely because of the plants discouraging me from approaching the area.
Few bugs, most of which are more so attributable to Build than to the map, though there was an ironic HOM in the mirror...
I expected more things to have interaction than they did, though if you are building a sort of standalone story, I could understand avoiding triggers that make Caleb talk, so the player can more so be themselves.
I _really_ hope you finish this, assuming you maintain this theme and feel (very M.R. James with an edge). Definitely one of the best things I could've spent this Halloween doing. Thank you for your work!
 Nice Map!
#31 posted by khreathor [91.217.18.31] on 2016/11/03 18:56:41
I haven't played Blood for a while, so I played this map on "Pink on the Inside" difficulty. I know... I'm a noob ;)
My playthrough
As someone mentioned before, ending is kinda weak. It ends suddenly, but I guess it will have much more sense when You'll finish other maps in this "episode".
Puzzle was cool I like it.
When do you plan to release another portion of this story? Do You have any other Blood maps released that I can play?
I saw You made few Duke3D maps, I'm gonna check them out too :)
#32 posted by quakis [82.20.14.52] on 2016/11/04 13:30:39
Cheers for the video. I'm starting to feel auto-closing doors are causing more harm than good despite their purpose. You also had a very close call to instant-death first time entering the library because of that door.
Sequels won't be out until sometime during the next year, ideally all the remaining planned levels in this series. No other Blood maps I'm afraid, this is my first one so far.
#33 posted by khreathor [78.88.31.113] on 2016/11/04 15:03:56
Yeah I was lucky with this door :D
Looking forward to play your next map.
#34 posted by lpowell [64.85.227.55] on 2016/11/14 00:50:32
This is actually the first custom Blood level I've played. Very nice, top-notch design and good layout. I liked the puzzle and putting hints in the books was a nice touch (although I didn't realize they were interactive at first), very Thief-like. I look forward to the next maps in the series--and hell, I should check out more Blood maps.
 Blood Maps...
#35 posted by FifthElephant [82.21.157.236] on 2016/11/14 18:20:42
Death Wish is one I keep hearing about.
#36 posted by skacky [90.0.68.86] on 2016/11/14 20:55:58
Death Wish is amazing and you should totally play it right about now. Why are you still reading this?
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