Average map again, but has some interesting components and enemy placements throughout. Still fun nevertheless.

3/5 stars.

Played on skill 2.

Not as good as the first, as has cramped sections and some badly placed enemies, the layout gets a bit better but the first encounter is very good and real tough, and if all has been calculated is a great feat. The text is a plus for these maps as usual.

4-

Average map again, but has some interesting components and enemy placements throughout. Still fun nevertheless.

3/5 stars

The combat is so consistently unfair that I found this borderline unplayable, and sunk costs fallacy was the only thing that motivated me to finish this. Maybe I shouldn't penalize a map for difficulty when its very name advertises how tough it is, but the combat just killed any enjoyment I might have had playing this.

The secrets are also "reol tough" to the point of being unfair. The two that I found would be considered challenging or deliberately obscure in a typical map, but here they're the relatively easy ones.

JMP, i finished it with only 1hp throughout the whole game on nightmare skill, so it rather possible but may be not from the very first time. I added demo if somebody wants to see this. I did it cuz from my first try i didn't find any secrets, and it was rather tough)) Lately i will upload demo with 100% walkthrough. So my rating for this map is 2.7=3+1=4 tough Shamblers out of 5.

Finished, rather anticlimactically, with all 59 kills but no secrets. I thought the highpoint was the very first room: a genuine challenge, and one that -- despite the fact that this map is over 20 years old -- I have not really encountered before. Worth playing for that alone.

MikeTaylor, Unfortunetly i coudn't upload the demo. It reports an error if you send it in a zip-file. Man if only you saw all these dude secrets! I showed it all in my demo, but i will try to re-upload it next time.

I feel the level designer's first map real tough: demise was a better map than real tough: fortress . The level design in this map feels too cramped and enemy encounters are clumped together making them easy to kill off. This is an average map that i would give only a three out of rating too and would recommend playing his first release instead as it is a superior map.

Liked the map. It's 2018 so every trick on the book should be known. The first room was definitely the hardest, but it was manageable after you kill the first ogre.

The first secret was an accident. That lead to the second secret which was very cool. Found 4 secrets... The lava one was kind of impossible, so some secrets are non sense.

Overall, cool map. From 1997? WOW.

Played this map after reading the comments mentioning the first encounter as a standout. Yup, it's a good one.

The rest of the map was made considerably easier after finding the RL secret, which cost me one life, though admittedly my health was in the red for most of the proceedings, and I died a couple times.

Not bad overall.