OMG finally ! - been waiting 4 this )

You can also use Vulkan Quake executable to play this:

https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases

As a bonus, you have nice software-style underwater warp :) A GPU supporting Vulkan API with up-to-date drivers is required, obviously.

SZGetSpace overflow with all overflow set adsepulcher

Any suggestions? Can't google a hint that fits.

Playing, as always -heapsize 256000 -zone 4096

Cheers, ludicrous

ludicrous: due to exceeding several limits, this map only runs on the modified engines released with the map (check the description at the top of page)

@ericw,

sorry, I didn't mention:

the fault above was given using

quakespasm-admod

when trying

quakespasm-spike-admod

it gives

Der Prozedureinsprung "SDL_DequeueAudio" wurde in der DLL "C:.............\quakespasm-spike-admod.exe" nicht gefunden.

Any suggestions?

Thanx

ludicrous

By the way, playing

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/kinn_marcher.html

with

quakespasm-admod

works, with

quakespasm-spike-admod

same fault

Great map. Definitely missed something during walkthrough - ended up with 33/50+ secrets found and 488/500+ kills.

Excellent map!!!

Gigantic - new monsters - new ideas - new game play - full of secrets - spectacular details -

Thanks Sock & Giftmacher

Excellent map!!!

Gigantic - new monsters - new ideas - new game play - full of secrets - spectacular details -

Thanks Sock & Giftmacher

@ludicrous check that the developer cvar is 0. (setting it to 1 will cause the SZ_GetSpace error on this map, in quakespasm-admod.exe).

for the SDL_DequeueAudio error, make sure to overwrite any existing SDL2.dll when you extract the archive with the engines.

@ericw

thank u so much.

Hint developer cvar 0 didn't work from console or autoexec.cfg.

Maybe I have to create a new autoexec.cfg in subdir \ad ?

But quakespasm-spike-admod works, it really was an old SDL2.dll. Think it looks even better than quakespasm-admod.

What a beast of a map! Gorgeous architect and brushes. Also really dig the spike version of Quakespasm. Subtle but very effective touches added to the Quake universe for an increased moody atmosphere. Hope it makes it into my the official branch of future releases.

Incredible map but I still can't find the remaining 2 damn secrets

.<

BTW Darkplaces effects in Spike awesome

Well, here I am, currently on 473 of 506 kills, and 35 of 50. And rather than exit the level, I am tramping around hunting more secrets -- by which I mean not just hidden rooms, but hidden entire areas of the map. I've never see anything like it, not even from Sock. Secrets within secrets within secrets -- a truly massive map that is as immersive as a real environment, endlessly inventive, joyously loops and inhabited by the most absolutely revolting new monsters. A total triumph, such that awarding it only five stars seems like ludicrous insult.

Once more, the bar has been raised. The Forgotten Sepulcher is insanely great, and marks a new "best ever Quake level".

I'm up to 482/507 kills -- I wonder where the extra monster came from? -- and 37/50 secrets. I've never known a game that so rewards careful exploration.

Is there any reward for killing all eight of the kraken spawn? I don't see one.

Also: is there a rocket-launcher anywhere?

308 kills of 308 but just 41 secrets of 50. Incredible map anyway, congratz to the authors. Good job.

@MikeTaylor I didn't notice any reward for killing all 8 kraken either. I'm also wondering if there's a rocket launcher somewhere. Prefer it over the grenade launcher when searching for secret areas.

Btw, someone rated this map a 3?! Dafuq...

Thinking Zendar couldn't be topped was wrong, this map is even better. 7/5

The amount of detail, the different bloody gibs all over combined with that new "monster", the intricate layout supporting that many secrets is unbelievably well done and an absolute first i'm sure. Almost unkind, and somehow uncanny too. I'd throw money at the creators for a game like this anytime.

BD

Had to use

-exec quake.rc

cause of error message

hosterror: edalloc: no free edicts (max_edicts is 8192)

works until now ...

great map, it's really fun.

Doesn't work, same fault

no free edicts (max_edicts is 8192)

any hints?

cheers ludicrous

Cant launch the map - ad_chapters says "not available" , console says there is no map file. Using Injector

People band this term around a lot but this map is truly a masterpiece. Every time I load it up I am lost in an eerie 'other world'. Astounding stuff.

AD and this map in particular is the new benchmark of Quake map design.

This is the Quake sequel we've been craving...Zenimax don't know what they're missing!

It's true. This is the only Quake map I've ever played where my immediate reaction to finishing it was the immediately start over again. And when I did, I took some different paths, and it was like playing a completely different level: coming into lots of areas from different directions, and so facing different challenges.

Link to patched Quakespasm doesnt work. Please, somebody, upload this to mirror.

Sup guys im new in the page, i just want to say this map is awesome,i played it on nightmare skill and i got 476/507 kills and 41/50 secrets i really enjoyed this map and the level desing is top notch, greetings from Monterrey, Mexico

I'm now playing through for a third time -- this time, trying to follow the extremely terse secrets guide in the README to find all the goodies. This map has a lot of replayability.

E1M3 is Homer's Odyssey. This is Joyce's Ulysses. hehe

OK, it finally worked with loading ad_sepulcher and typing exec quake.rc directly . Maybe I missed that before ... got 35/50 secrets. Wonderful map. I'll try it now with skill 1. :-) Cheers, ludicrous

Sorry but i can't run any map! Maybe i miss something, where i have to paste "-heapsize 256000 -zone 4096 -game ad"? Why when i write "map ad_nameofmap" i just say i cannot spawn?

I can't start this at all. Always getting a fast flashing screen followed by a "couldn't create window" error message after a few seconds. Any help would be really appreciated. I'm using the GOG version of Quake on Win 7 x64.

Had to delete the opengl32.dll from my Quake main folder. Now The Forgotten Sepulcher is working like a charm.

The Forgotten Sepulcher on The Quake Grave

What can I say? I echo everyone else's sentiments here, this is an amazing release!

I don't really have any critiques here. It's a long map, that I don't normally like too much, but this one kept my attention the whole time. By splitting up combat and exploration almost 50/50 through the map, it really kept me interested. The way the map is set up, everything is intertwined somehow and there are a million different alcoves and areas to discover. every time I entered a new room, the thought was, okay, where can I get to from here!?

The other thing that makes the exploration feel satisfying is that this map also tells a great story throughout it. In fact, it's telling several stories within it, and it's hard to to not want find out where each of them lead to.

Sock and Giftmacher really out did themselves with this map and it's really the giant cherry on top of the Arcane Dimensions sundae. Nice work guys!

Now that was some exploration allright! Great work as always, Sock.

After a quad deep scanning of the map I found and handled all monsters (skill 1) but only 47 secrets. Most fun I received from poetic hints inside the books, no matter English is not my native. Very big and very accurate work!

AMAZING. Arcane dimensions FTW! I hope the sequel had WIZARDS!

Umm... what sequel?

The regular release of Quakespasm can now run this, as of version 0.93.0. Changed the map description accordingly.

Any further plans for further expanding the AD universe in any way ? Would be great!

This is an epic level, there's no doubt. It has outstanding graphics, new monsters, solid architecture, etc.

Though I found it really boring. The space to walk around is huge, and it's not clear where to go, there are some books with runes along the way, but they sound more like old fairy tales. This creation lack the good Quake combat, in fact the authors created something more of a quest.

Played about 40 minutes or so, killed a bunch of enemies (100+), found about 10 secrets, walked in circles, bushed like 20 button, and still it was not clear what to do next. Sorry, just quit. Was never into quests.

:(

I know, right? What can you say about someone who doesn't enjoy ad_sepulcher? Repus, are you sure you want be playing Quake at all?

Oh well. I guess it's all personal opinions.

Somebody's itching to get IP banned I see.

That's not cool. Not everybody has to enjoy what the popular opinion enjoys.

Despite my heartfelt pity and disdain for the co-author, and my firm belief that the original version before their interference was much better, I thought Sepulcher was a very good map.

Sepulcher is VASTLY different from your regular Quake map though. Repus has sometimes weird criteria but this time you can't really argue against them. Sepulcher is definitely not for everyone.

I actually agree with Repus here, for the reason Skacky articulates: this is so different from the typical Quake map that it strips away many of the things I like about Quake. It's a technical marvel, and I can appreciate the skill and ambition that went into creating it, but it's just not a map I can get into--purely for subjective reasons.

I love this map, but I definitely think that's a valid perspective. I see this as a map for mapcrawlers. There are so many side areas and alternate routes that add to the mapcrawling dimension, but which could be confusing if you want to blast through a 'normal' Quake map.

This is one of those maps that are just a little bit too detailed and/or interconnected for their own good, which detracts from exploration as well. There's just too much shit around, and it's hard to focus.

However, hours spent on secret-hunting and admiring the scenery were well worth an occasional moment of confusion. I wish there were more maps like this.

This map was so boring and confusing to me that since trying to find the gameplay in it, I did not touch any new Quake releases I think, because it took the "new style" of maps to the extreme and left me longing for stock id1.

I really like both Giftmacher's and Sock's work in general -- granted, Giftmacher hasn't released that many Q1SP maps yet, but "The Brimstone Mine" from func_mapjam 9 is my favourite map from 2017, and one of my all-time top maps (at the moment, at least). And there are several Sock releases I love, including Backsteingotik and The Ivory Tower.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of The Forgotten Sepulcher either, for similar reasons to what some of the more critical comments above mention. I really admire it and have great respect for the amount of work that went into it.

However, visually, I find it far too busy, and it comes across as overworked. As dwere points out, this impedes navigation, but aesthetically as well, I much prefer maps that are more restrained. Both Giftmacher and Sock have released much better looking maps, in my opinion.

I'm not a big fan of the gameplay either, although -- in partial response to Skacky's and JMP's comments above -- I wouldn't say it's due to the deviation from the standard Quake formula. Nor is it because of the focus on exploration and quests. I enjoy exploration-heavy and quest-based gameplay in general, and I love In the Shadows, for instance, which deviates much further from standard Quake. This, however, I found simply too big and unfocussed, and, much like ad_swampy, I found it confusing, exhausting and a bit of a chore to complete.

There were parts of it I enjoyed. The new monsters were fun, and some of the side quests and secret hunts were engaging. But although it is indisputably a very high quality release, groundbreaking in many ways and -- to quote JMP -- "a technical marvel" , it is (just like any other map) not beyond criticism.

Well shit.

Loved the map, everyone said everything that I would have said. So this time I came here with a question.

How do you get the red armor just underneath the gold key door? I think no one will read this, but I have been searching for ages. Even nocliped to see if it was a grenade secret. No.

Found a different texture brick and even one buttonless hole, but with the same size, near a breakable window. Frustrated.

As far as I remember, it's just a hidden shootable button somewhere nearby. Despite this, it took me forever to find it.

Look under the vines. It's a red backpack not a red armour as far as I remember.

11/10 still wouldn't be enough for this map lol

I am blown away by the technical, and visual aspects of this entire project. To even make this while using the BSP system and mapping tools for Quake is mind blowing. But, I sadly and absolutely do not enjoy the Gameplay. The altered guns, the boring aspect of roaming around in big maps, and the forced puzzles are not my cup of tea. Quake is not a puzzle game to me nor is it about wandering around in gigantic maps.

But, this is a must see to believe it type of mod.

I normally don't get into giant maps, but I loved this one from beginning to end. Just so much fun to poke around in... so many places to find and secrets to uncover, a good variety of fights and locales and mild routefinding puzzles. It does help that this map leans into one of my favorite Quake texture themes. And I didn't end up getting lost THAT much.

It looks fantastic of course.

After finishing it I went back to the entryway and just poked around for a bit to soak it in a little more. Good stuff guys, well done. I'm not sure I would recommend this as the introduction to Arcane Dimensions, but once you're familiar with the AD changes this is a great way to put them through their paces.

This map won the "Best Expanded Limits" and "People's Choice Award" categories at the Quake Awards 2018.

Too big to explore at first , overwhelming. Combat always en point. Never gets old , like a classic indeed. Awesome!!!

Is there any video yet showing a complete run? All secrets, enemies, etc?

Thanks!

Arcane Dimensions features such an excellent collection of maps that it nearly seems unfair to pick favourites lest the other maps in the pack be overlooked. However this map, together with Firetop Mountain and Leptis Magna, are special highlights for me and have particularly high replay value. Everything in these three maps has been carefully crafted, from the architecture to the monster placement to the progression, and the many secrets and additional quests make The Forgotten Sepulcher (as well as the other two maps) unique Quake experiences to me.

Congratulations to the authors for such an excellent work. I can't imagine how many hours you must have spent refining this massive map. But perhaps a bit sadistically, I look forward to many more quality contributions from them :-)

An extremely immersive and special experience. When the map first started up I immediately felt lost in a special otherworld, the kind one dreams of experiencing in gaming but which so rarely happens. There are so many dark, inventive, occultish, gruesome and eerie touches. It's beautiful to behold.

I have so far completed 238/308 kills, 16/50 secrets and have walked round a lot trying to find out how to get the bloody key, the crypt key, the silver key and to the Boglord. So much more to discover. What a piece of work. A stunning achievement, and a whole new world to get lost in.

Absolutely Amazing! Vast spaces and gloomy places!

Also, I wholeheartedly agree with MikeTaylor on secrets. This is what I love about sock's maps: secrets are not just some hidden health pack behind a poorly concealed door, they lead you to whole new areas worthy of exploration, often including side quests and so forth.

This is the kind of map that got me into treasure hunting (well, in the context of Quake, mind you) and gave real meaning to replaying maps. I didn't really care about getting all secrets before, now it's one of the things I look forward to in the maps I download from Quaddicted. The more the better --- even though maps that take it to this level are unfortunately still rare to the best of my knowledge, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

Like much of the rest of AD, visually stunning, the monsters and weapons are inventive and interesting and the difficulty on Hard about right. But the non linear level design is frankly bad. I have nothing against non linear but it has to be done properly. Progression has to be intuitive. Guesswork is not fun when you have to run around places you have been to a dozen times before with no reasonable clues to find some obscure button particulary such a confusing labyrinth of a level. Another gripe - it is possible also to complete this game having seen only half of what it has because of the unnecessarily confusing multi options it offers. There are many points where after completing an objective, you are forced to guess at something that is completely non intuitive and leaves you lost for hours before the "really ?". This is just sloppy level design. Such a shame beacause it is massive, beautiful, extremely atmospheric - clearly a lot of work has gone into it but profoundly confusing because of poorly thought out progression and an over egged non linear trope. If half the effort that went into the look of these levels went into the design of game progression, they would be brilliant.

I want the Giftmacher and Sock to know, that there are people who love The Forgotten Sepulcher, not only for its visuals, but also for its gameplay and other things it does. I played it on the day of its release and played it again yesterday (3 years after), to refresh my memory before I'm writing this review.

For me, The Forgotten Sepulcher is an absolute pinnacle of a level design. A dream come true. I always loved Quake for several reasons. Besides the most obvious ones, like visuals, level design and setting, gunplay, movement, secrets, etc. for me, one of the biggest enjoyment comes from memorizing the 3D layout of a map. There is always some amount of confusion, where to go and what to do, in the beginning of each non-linear map. As you often backtrack and revisit areas, you begin to get familiar with the layout. As I run through the corridors back and forth, I'm constructing a 3D map of the level in my imagination. After some time, as the pieces begins to fit, an overall image starts to uncover. It's like a 3D puzzle. I prefer term "puzzle" instead of "maze" which in my opinion is not accurate, because a maze is usually just a trial and error run (not fun for me). At some point of the game, when I have a considerably good "3D map" in my head, there comes a very rewarding feeling. And this is what I like about FPS games in general, especially in Quake.

It is important to say, that the non-linear level design is very difficult to make properly. Many things can go wrong during the design process and gameplay. I don't mind getting lost as long as I feel I'm making a progress. But when you got desparately lost, and despite your effort you cannot proceed further, and if the key parts are easy to miss, then something is wrong and the fun is lost. For me the Forgotten Sepulcher does this right in most parts and is "on the edge" in other few parts. Considering its size and the fact that these guys pushed everything to its limts, I would describe it as a success overall. I don't want to flaunt (to show off), but during my recent second playthrough (3 years after its release), it took me 2 hours to finish (0,5 hour of backtracking). Without dying once, without much effort I found 47/50 secrets, which most of them I had still in my memory (to my own surprise) and I left only 5 monsters alive. I wouldn't remember as much, if it was badly designed. This is the reason I think the Giftmacher and Sock got it right. It is overwhelming, but fairly enough. BTW: there are arrows all over the place, navigating you forth, don't forget about that!

To be fair here are some of my complaints: The silver key door is easy to miss. Some of the breakable walls are hard to identify as breakable. I would appreciate more power-ups along the way, at least one more quad-damage. If you reach the exit portal and you want to find the rest of the secrets (let's say you killed all the enemies, but want to find some minor secrets), you will have a hard time. A very very hard time. This is probably what drove people crazy the most.

It is a let down for me to read some of let's say not-so-positive comments here. I thought here on Quaddicted, we all are a bunch of nerds, playing a 24 years old game, feeling things similarly... But clearly not. I can understand some of the criticism, it could be overwhelming for someone (note that my second playthrough took me 2 hours), but I cannot grasp an argument like: "it's gameplay is different than the original". Yes it is, for Chthon's sake it is! 24 years is a good amount of time to push things further. It is different, but I think it walks in the same spirit as the original swampy/medieval maps, expanding upon it, exceeding the limits, mastering the design and complexity. Forgotten Sepulcher truly is a masterpiece.

Geez, another one of these 100minutes played maps. Master level at design for sure and it's one of the most great maps ever done for quake. It reminds me of Thief games, where secrets are everywhere, mostly last game of the Thief franchise.

It's very complex, it was fun at first, but then with time it became to complex and tiring. It was more exploration with addition of monsters to me.

It's marvellous at design, but I'm not so sure if it fits quake. Maybe remade into RPG?

Still damn Great Job!

That moment when the map starts and you simply feel amazed and astounded with the ambiance, breathing in the atmosphere, without the will nor courage to move, anticipating the experience, if you finally let it - it becomes known: this is it.

I can perfectly see how and why this map could possibly trigger some people. Yes, "The Forgotten Sepulcher" is a lot; it is also dense in content - but nobody says you have to take all or nothing from it. Just take some. Maybe you will return sometime, try a different route perhaps. If not, even a little experience of the map, should give you fair example of what the whole picture is about. No need to be obsessive. Do yourself a favor and simply let it have secrets; no need to know them all. If you feel like, go ahead, try discover them all, talk about the map, involve in communities - it would be great. If you are satisfied with just a little, then good for you; move on to another realm, find something more attune with your taste. There is plenty to search through.

In my opinion, truly an act of artistry "The Forgotten Sepulcher" is; far beyond mere craftsmanship. It does feel like surpassing 'Quake' not by a step, but by two - definitely too much in order to avoid possible controversy.

The environmental storytelling in "The Forgotten Sepulcher", does tell of a mayhemed place - a place of grand battle, waged once in a distant past. Notwithstanding, the danger, is very much undead - or alive - like an unstable, slumbering structure, ready to bury alive anyone who dares disturb it. The ancient foes haunt the inert battlefield, taking captive of every soul daring to cross their paths of deathly quiet. It is a dungeon full of traps.

"The Forgotten Sepulcher", is not only an advancement in the way of gameplay approach within the universe of 'Quake', but also is it a technological breakthrough, proudly making great use of the "Arcane Dimensions" base of assets and technology. I say it superficially, though, myself being not the most significant authority to give an opinion in this regard. But I can see how the modern way of the map, differs from the original game (1996) or the original-flavour gameplay formula. 'Quake', has come a long way and who knows what we are yet to see in the times to come - hopefully speaking.

What else to say, if not: this is the new 'Quake' - and I am for it.

I just re-re-replayed this (or maybe re-re-re-replayed, or maybe more — it's hard to keep count). It really is the most astonishing achievement, so satisfying in so many ways. Only three things could make it better. 1. The rocket-launcher. So far as I can tell (44 of 50 secrets in my most recent playthrough) it's simply not in the map. 2. The promised lich-fiend putting in an appearance. 3. Something happening when you kill all the kraken spawns after completing the map. But those three flaws serve only to bring it down from 100% to 99.943% perfect.

+1 to the last comment above.

I'm giving this yet another replay (I've lost count too) and I can't thank you enough for releasing the best map I'll ever play. Although I've walked these rooms countless times, I always discover something new, even if it's "merely" new paths taking me to places I know. It's easy to miss a lot of things if you're not thorough.

Great map!

...... Lich-fiend is a lie?

@Escalate_krsk: yes, I'm afraid it is.