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|Title:||The Grim Outpost|
|Type:||Single BSP File(s)|
|BSP: • PAK: • PROGS.DAT: • Custom Models/Sounds:|
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The Grim OutpostLarge Wizard-/Episode 2-themed fortress.
Note: This map requires a source port with increased limits and BSP2 support.
[rezipped for Quaddicted]
Tags: large, wizard, fortress, castle, limits, bsp2, id1
Editor's Rating: Excellent
4.7/5 with 81 ratings
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Really fun old-school map, and it's nice to see one of the top Quake mappers of the '90s return!
Just loved this. It's really Old School, taken to the max: a level that's as big and inventive as a good modern map, but with a pure 1990s ID aesthetic. Nice, findable-but-satisfying secrets (I got 9 of the 12).
Really super map, very atmospheric, very explorable, and very Old-School.
Yeah this one is great fun! I like the scale of areas, which is somewhat more twisty/cozy than some recent big open maps I've been playing. Nice Ebon Fortress-ish construction (although more modern/polished) that works well with those textures.
The layout really gives you a feel of climbing and tunneling and swimming around through this interlocked space. But it's not too much "swiss cheese" ... really just splitting into a few route choices occasionally, although it disguises that. Good use of vantages where you can see one route from another.
Playing on hard, there were several surprise combat encounters that really tested my ability to run backwards into a narrow doorway or up a little staircase etc. You do need to keep your escape routes in mind because there's not much margin for blundering around when you move. That ended up being fine & fun tho. The only thing I might dock it for was a major surprise encounter that was just implemented as "teleport a bunch of powerful monsters on top of the player". Too bad about that one, but otherwise top notch.
Excellent map, played on hard difficulty. Only got 3 secrets, looking forward to playing it again!
Straightforward, nothing fancy, and many fairly obvious secrets. Yet beautifully executed in the spirit of the first maps. This would have blended in beautifully in the original game!
This should be required study material for any mappers. It is plain id1-style greatness. Countless homages to the original maps. Great secrets. Fun gameplay. Quake the way id did it!
Not sure why bsp2 was needed to be honest, this does not seem too complex.
Starts off as an unassuming, 90s-esque level but gradually gets bigger & grander. And at the same time the gameplay gets more and more intense, so there's a great feeling of progression. You even get the rocket launcher, imagine that! Very substantial level with linear but good level design. The balance is mostly good, but at one point I ran out of ammo and had to go secret hunting for the grenade launcher.
5/5 played through on skill 2, took me at least 10 tries. The only problem i have is that one switch early on that's required to hit to proceed in the map. it's often a little bit confusing to find. fun and varied gameplay with well thought out and fair monster placement. rewarding and fun secrets (only found 7 on my playthrough but the ones i found were distinctly helpful when i needed them).
"id"eal map! 5/5 nice "id" secret!
Great to see one of my favourite authors from the initial years making a return. This is classic Quake done right.
Really fun map
Played it on skill 2. Was very short on ammunition all the time and it was quite a challenge. The fights were all great. Maybee a little narrow here and there. But i had alout of fun. Thank you.
Nice little map and nice to see Andrew Smith back making maps as I always had fun in his originals for 97/98. It's a bit simplistic in design by todays standards but his maps were always just short fun fights with ogres and hell knights in small spaces but not too much detail. This would be Andrew's best.
BUT, there's something seriously up with the rating on this, with a 4.77 it's the best single map release in 25 years of Quake, and the 4th best release of all (ahead of the xmas jams, in fact ALL the jams, drake, alkaline, dwell, quoth, nehahra, travail, warp spasm, all of tronyn's episodes). I went in expecting some brilliant masterpiece but really it's just a 2000's level map, 3.7-4.0 I'm afraid.
Marvelous observation, @'[Kona]'. Perhaps this map, is 'Quake' in a nutshell?
Wow. One of the most complex layout wise maps I ever played. Literally I can't imagine how to make such an interconnected looping environment. Genious. Hail Andrew. Seriously. THANKS
On replaying this, it's still a lot of fun but I can't think why I gave it the full five stars, I remarked down to four, because although it's a really good old-school blast, it's only a really good old-school blast.
Tries to out-id id, but sadly ends up botching the scale. Too cramped.
Really solid map, enjoyed it all the way through!
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